As some of you know I was trying to decide on keeping my brinkmann TMLE or get a real smoker, was pretty much set on a Horizon 20" but then had an accident at work and ended up having to have surgery so everything has been put on hold. Any how while i've been setting around I found a couple guys around here that build smokers and there are also two I found for sale so thought I'd run them past you all and see what you think. the 1st one is basicaly a 16" Horizon but reverse flow, $1500 2nd is a over under type, $1600 The thing I dont like about this one is its only1/8 steel and I would have to wait tell some time in Augest to pick it up. The two for sale, 1st is a Kloser 20"x 48" 1/4" cc with 1/2" fb $650 2nd is a Lyfe Tyme looks to be like a horizon 16" Ranger,$500 I'm still liking the Horizons to, just looking at other options. Any input on these would be great. Just trying to decide, hopefully I can go get one this weekend if the Dr.says I can start moving around again. Thanks in advance.