Lang 36 patio/YoderCheyenne

Discussion in 'Wood Smokers' started by danbono, Sep 6, 2015.

  1. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi All I've been looking at the Lang 36 Patio and the Yoder Cheyenne. Started looking at the Lang , but shipping was way up there, now looking at the Yoder.
    Any thoughts about these two smokers from those who have them?
    Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks DanB
    PS Any one in the Red White & Que/Cresskill completion will be using either one?
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2015
  2. Not too long ago, I was considering both of these options as well--Yoder of Lang. In the end I went with the Lang cause I wanted the hybrid so I would also have the char grill.

    Positives for the Lang -- the standard model has a second sliding shelf, the reverse flow means you won't have to choose a convection plate as an add-on, and I think it has a slightly larger cooking capacity. It is very easy to get going and use.

    Positives for the Yoder -- the fit & finish looks a bit better (in the pictures at least) than the Lang.

    Minuses for the Lang -- the temp varies from one side of the cooker to the other by about 20-25 degrees and I can't seem to change this characteristic. My guess is that the 36 cooking chamber is just smaller, so 25% of your cooking surface is very near the firebox. And the closer to the firebox, it's just going to be hotter, even with the reverse flow plate. This is just my experience. I'm guessing perhaps the smaller Yoder will be similar. 

    Minuses for the Yoder - Dunno know, never used one.

    In the end, I LOVE cooking on the Lang 36 and find it very easy to use and would recommend it. Like I said, I got it cause of the whole hybrid/char-grill. For me the choice was between this and the loaded Witchita, which I am sure I would have loved as well. But, my family does a lot of grilling too, so just having a big smoker didn't make as much sense. 

    Anyway -- I think you'll be happy with either choice. The Yoders look great.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2015
  3. bayourouge

    bayourouge Newbie

    I just bought the Lang 36 Patio. I also considered the Yoder but the Wichita not the Cheyenne. I think the Wichita is more close to the Lang. I chose the Lang because of the reverse flow, 1/4" plate, firebox design, value, and a large customer base that is almost cult following. To me the Cheyenne is not a good alternative.

    The Lang is easy to use and the cleaning is amazingly easy. I only have a few cooks on it but I can tell the flavor is different and better than my vertical charcoal smoker. I have to say the attention to the smoker is significant -- you can't set it and forget it.

    You do need to consider the shipping costs. It was more than I expected but they did a great job and delivered to my door. I couldn't go get for that price.

    You will love the LANG!
     
  4. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi All Thanks for the great info. Would like to hear more before spending my $$.

    Dan
     
  5. Yeah, just to reiterate. I have no regrets in buying a Lang, and despite the initial "gulp" of the shipping costs, I do not regret the decision whatsoever. Given the epoch this will last and the amount of cooking i will be doing on it over time, the shipping costs are part of the investment.

    To be honest, I don't think shipping for me of a Yoder or a Horizon would have been that much cheaper. All these pit makers are quite far from NJ. And Meadow Creek, which is closer, is just to $$$$$ comparatively.

    You can't set and forget a Lang, but I will say that after a summer of smoking cooking quite a bit, once you get the hang of the Lang, you add a log every now and then, adjust the vents a bit and its pretty easy going. There is a little bit of a learning curve, but once you get the hang of fire management, its quite easy.

    My initial mistake was using larger splits, Now I use chunks of apple or oak cut down to a soda can size, add one or two maybe every 45 minutes and just let it roll. Maintaining a clear stack is easy, and it's not that much trouble to run.

    Like I said, I'm sure you'll be happy with the Yoder if you go that route, but as Bayou mentioned, I think the Lang is probably somewhere between the Wichita and Cheyenne in size. And trust the old adage -- whatever size you think you need, you need the next one bigger.

    Cheers,

    Nicholas
     
  6. chewmeister

    chewmeister Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I was looking at a Lang 36", but just can't seem to justify paying over half the cost of the smoker in just shipping. Tough sell for me.
     
  7. Dan,

    I've had my Lang 36" patio all summer, and yes shipping charges are steep, but

    you'll forget about that after your first couple of smokes.  I'm still a nub and each

    cook gets easier.  She warms up easy and once there is easy to maintain.  I can't compare the Yoder

    as I have no first hand knowledge, but I don't regret getting the Lang.

    Teddy
     
  8. glocksrock

    glocksrock Smoking Fanatic

    For me, I'd get the Lang just because it's reverse flow and has the griddle plate underneath the cooking grate. This helps keep the temps evened out as well as sears the fat/drippings which adds to the flavor of the meat. When I had my Old Country Wrangler, the firebox side was way hotter than the stack side, which is the case with pretty much all offset smokers, but even more so for a direct flow smoker. You will be happy with either one, just go as big as you can so you don't want to upgrade later on. Also, look on craigslist for a nice used one, that's how I found my Lang 48 patio, and I saved a ton of money.
     
  9. mikesys

    mikesys Fire Starter

    I have both; a Yoder Loaded Wichita, for my patio and a Lang 60 deluxe trailer smoker for parties. Both are great smokers!! I paid $300 shipping to Iowa for the Yoder, the Lang was going to be $700, so I found a used one 5.5 hours away.
    Both cook very well and hold temperature perfectly, yes there is a temp difference from side to side on both but after you learn your pit it's not an issue.
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2015
  10. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    HI All Thanks for your replies..I am looking for a used one, either the Lang 36" Patio or the Yoder Cheyenne. I place some a want ads in different forums, so far NO luck.

    Dan
     
  11. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi All Still NOT sure which smoker I'm going with. I have some time to decide,won't be ordering till after winter season here in North NJ,until then I have to put my COS/ Smoke N Pit to good use. Both smokers  have some things that appeal to me. Like to hear from some more of those have smoked with them.
    Thx Dan

    PS One my main concern is temps from side to side?
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2015
  12. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi All Can I grill using the firebox on a Lang 36 Patio?

    Thanks Dan
     
  13. mikesys

    mikesys Fire Starter

    No, at best you could cook on a cast iron skillet on the fire box, but the Yoder smokers have an optional cooking grate for the fire box. The Lang only opens from the side and the Yoder opens top and side.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2015
  14. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi Thanks for the pics, and the info.

    Dan
     
  15. love my Yoder Cheyenne, My first offset, so I can't really compare it to anything else.. That said, I can't find anything negative to say about it.. From its looks to heat stability to the delicious foods that comes out of it..  Just a great piece of craftsmanship.. you wont be disappointed
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2015
  16. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi All I'm now looking into a Shirley 24 x 36.. Any one have any info on this one?

    Thanks Dan  Happy T Day to all
     
  17. bmudd14474

    bmudd14474 Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I believe that Lang now has a Hybrid Patio that will meet your needs. Might want to give it a look as well.
     
  18. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hi I'm more interested in the smoking part then the grilling part. I was just curious about the grilling part.

    Dan
     
  19. danbono

    danbono Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    HI Any one with Lang 36 Patio, can tell me about the 2nd cooking shelf, is it standard and does it slide out?

    Thanks Dan
     
  20. glocksrock

    glocksrock Smoking Fanatic

    I believe the slide out shelves are standard on all models now, but you can the get it with the older style shelf if you prefer, the cost is the same for either.
     

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