Time to make more sausage. 10 lbs of beer sausage (followed recipe from wedliny domove )and 5 lbs of kielbasa. (Recipe from Shannon). Followed closely just up the garlic. All pork. beer is pork,beef and pork fat. Got it all mixed up and ready to stuff. kielbasa done. The beer sausage ready for rest in the fridge till morning. Then into my MES with AMNP and apple pellets for 5-6 hrs. then for swim in 165-170 water to finish. Out to bloom and into paper bag and rest in fridge till tomorrow. And the result is kielbasa is spot on. would not change a thing (well mabey more garlic) and the beer sausage is pretty darn good too just needs to dry a bit. Thanks for looking and the recipies.