finally everything went just right. the ribs turned out awesome,cooked steady temp at 225 to 230 for 2.5, foiled for 1.5 and out of the foil for 1.5, sauce for the last 1/2 hr. Moist, tender, and not fall off the bone, just a slight tug and the bones were clean. in the pic on the grill the bone is sticking out where they bent when taking out of foil, I have not been able to do this with my other smokers and i dont know why, i have repeated this method on this site several times and did everything exactly the same. So after smoking the chicken yesterday and these today im sold on the wsm. Made Jeff's rub and sauce, a little extra brown sugar and 3/4 cup of honey,extra black pepper and some onion, also no napkins were used in the endulgence of these as sauce is for finger lickin-not finger wipin...uhhhhh....nap time in the hammock on the back porch with thunderstorms...Thanks.