Was watching Jeff's video and decided to give them a try. I also went ahead and purchased his recipes to show support for all his work. Seasoned the night before. Going back to the smoke tube with chips and pellets. Even the long low smoke just not getting that much smoke anymore. Maybe this hot weather has something to do with it? Ended up taking about 5 hours. They came up fast towards the end and they went a little over but they where still fairly tender but wow the smoke flavor was good! Tasted like they where done on the WSM. Had great color but my picture messed up of cut shot. Smoke tube not much of a hassle to use so I be using from now on. Used some pesto on the Caparese salad. Basil and Dill about the only thing that doing any good on the indoor hydro garden. I have that beef cheek in the Sous Vide.