I'm Confused

[dernektambura]

on the second thought. . I do hate computer technology even though it helps...
Back in time, when internet just started, my wife asked me to look for old cookies recipe her grandma used to cook....I swear to Almighty God I typed: "grand ma cookies" and old naked womens start popping up on screen... damn porn.. and I was trying to close pop ups but they were faster then me. . and wife walked in on me. still I have problem to convince her I was looking for cookies receipe, not watchinf porn. ..

 

[JC in GB]

Things change with time. Not always for the better. There are no village blacksmiths or coopers any more. Our children are also not breathing lead with every breath now that leaded gasoline has been abolished. The thing that scares me about our current modernization is that nearly every piece of data we now produce is electronically stored and retrieved. I can see a period in our future when generations of data will be lost either due to failure or destruction of the storage media or that there is no longer any hardware capable of reading the data or even worse the data will be held hostage and sold which is what is already happening today. Written data can be read by any human even if they may not understand it. I try not to let my lack of understanding of the modern world get me down as I know I can get around just fine with what I already know.

 

[dernektambura]

Things change with time. Not always for the better. There are no village blacksmiths or coopers any more. Our children are also not breathing lead with every breath now that leaded gasoline has been abolished. The thing that scares me about our current modernization is that nearly every piece of data we now produce is electronically stored and retrieved. I can see a period in our future when generations of data will be lost either due to failure or destruction of the storage media or that there is no longer any hardware capable of reading the data or even worse the data will be held hostage and sold which is what is already happening today. Written data can be read by any human even if they may not understand it. I try not to let my lack of understanding of the modern world get me down as I know I can get around just fine with what I already know.

Yes.. data colecting is worst... I went so far I don't reveal any data even to my wife... she gives me chit for something I did wrong and guess what I do...I Hold my ground, give her cold stare right back and keep my mouth shut.... but I don't back away or retrieve ...gotta be man when chit hits the fan and stand by.. lol...

 

[motocrash]

BTW, I can't stand these new emojis.

Their fairly new and you've been absent too long.
How's the Philly gang holdin' up?

 

[HalfSmoked]

Not hard to do to an old man is confuse him. But where is this world going? Our younglings are not now taught long hand writing in school and they can't read it either. The world of computers doesn't do long hand. So no need to teach it.
Next the younglings can not read a clock with hands on it, the only way they can tell time is with a digital clock. REALLY.

Sorry but I'm old and confused.

Warren

Thanks for the like dernektambura it is appreciated.

Warren

 

[HalfSmoked]

Thanks for all the replies and comments. Some points I can see and some I don't but it is what it is.

Warren

 

[bbqbrett]

What I can't stand are the cashiers asking me for my phone number. Here's a hint-there is a reason I paid in cash. No, I am not giving you my phone number....so quit asking me!

Reminds me of back in the day when Radio Shack was still around and asked for your phone # when you bought something. Went in to get two AA batteries and paid cash. The clerk asked me for my phone # and I wouldn't give it to her. She actually said she couldn't sell me the batteries without it. I said I can't give you one. When she asked why not I said I was homeless and didn't have a phone (no cell phones back then) and the look on her face was pretty horrified. Of course I was not homeless and even dressed in nice business casual clothes. However, she apologized several times and sold me the batteries though. Never got asked for a phone number again when I went in that store.

 

[indaswamp]

Reminds me of back in the day when Radio Shack was still around and asked for your phone # when you bought something. Went in to get two AA batteries and paid cash. The clerk asked me for my phone # and I wouldn't give it to her. She actually said she couldn't sell me the batteries without it. I said I can't give you one. When she asked why not I said I was homeless and didn't have a phone (no cell phones back then) and the look on her face was pretty horrified. Of course I was not homeless and even dressed in nice business casual clothes. However, she apologized several times and sold me the batteries though. Never got asked for a phone number again when I went in that store.

I realize that the cashiers are just doing their job, doing what they are told... It's not their fault. I'm not mad at them for doing their job. When they ask for a phone number I just politely tell them "no".

These companies are making money off personal data. They have all kinds of ways to try and bribe you into giving it to them. Eventually there will be a supreme court decision on how far companies can go in pursuit of your data. It has gotten way out of hand IMO.

 

[HalfSmoked]

I realize that the cashiers are just doing their job, doing what they are told... It's not their fault. I'm not mad at them for doing their job. When they ask for a phone number I just politely tell them "no".

These companies are making money off personal data. They have all kinds of ways to try and bribe you into giving it to them. Eventually there will be a supreme court decision on how far companies can go in pursuit of your data. It has gotten way out of hand IMO.

Yup even our Motor Vehicle Dept. sold there mailing list of all the registrations in MD. That sucked it brought all kinds of mail.

Warren

 

[Winterrider]

grand ma cookies" and old naked womens start popping up on screen... damn porn.. and I was trying to close pop ups but they were faster then me. . and wife walked in on me. still I have problem to convince her I was looking for cookies receipe, not watchinf porn. ..I

Lot of similarities there, not sure why she wouldn't believe you.

 

[noboundaries]

No longer teaching cursive, yeah, not good, but it won't be long before signatures will be a thing of the past, too, so what will it matter?

At least kids today won't have to go through what I did learning to write cursive. I'm a left-handed writer (play sports right-handed, but that's another story). When I was learning to write, I got my left hand smacked with a ruler each time the teachers caught me using my left hand instead of my right as I practiced my cursive letters on lined pieces of paper.

I never got the hang of writing right-handed, except on a black board for some reason. I came home one afternoon in the third grade with my left hand red, blue, and swollen. The teacher had received one of those thick half-meter wooden rulers, and my left hand was her beta test. My Italian mom finally got the truth out of me, took me back to school, and laid into the teacher and the principle. After that, no problems, but I rarely looked up to teachers again.

Years later I read that some teachers back then considered left-handed writers evil. At least on a keyboard, I'm only half bad......because I use both hands.

 

[indaswamp]

No longer teaching cursive, yeah, not good, but it won't be long before signatures will be a thing of the past, too, so what will it matter?

At least kids today won't have to go through what I did learning to write cursive. I'm a left-handed writer (play sports right-handed, but that's another story). When I was learning to write, I got my left hand smacked with a ruler each time the teachers caught me using my left hand instead of my right as I practiced my cursive letters on lined pieces of paper.

I never got the hang of writing right-handed, except on a black board for some reason. I came home one afternoon in the third grade with my left hand red, blue, and swollen. The teacher had received one of those thick half-meter wooden rulers, and my left hand was her beta test. My Italian mom finally got the truth out of me, took me back to school, and laid into the teacher and the principle. After that, no problems, but I rarely looked up to teachers again.

Years later I read that some teachers back then considered left-handed writers evil. At least on a keyboard, I'm only half bad......because I use both hands.

It is thought that the devil is left handed and as such people long ago associated left handed people with evil.
https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/20464/are-left-handers-servants-of-the-devil

Sad such a thing ever existed. Bunch of needless torture for kids.

 

[Misplaced Nebraskan]

not a lefty

 

[zwiller]

For me I don't really care about cursive data mining etc but the lack of respect in the youth will become an epidemic. Actually, read this thread and headed home from work. I hate driving... Too many idiots I have to babysit. So I come to an intersection and have the green light and notice 2 boys playing with a basketball half way in my lane. They are completely are clueless and I slow down and stop. I yell and point to the light and they make fun of me and go their merry way...

 

[bbqbrett]

No longer teaching cursive, yeah, not good, but it won't be long before signatures will be a thing of the past, too, so what will it matter?

At least kids today won't have to go through what I did learning to write cursive. I'm a left-handed writer (play sports right-handed, but that's another story). When I was learning to write, I got my left hand smacked with a ruler each time the teachers caught me using my left hand instead of my right as I practiced my cursive letters on lined pieces of paper.

You had it rough. Like you I am left handed and write left handed. Never had teachers hitting me with a ruler thank goodness but they couldn't really show me how to write well either. I do some sports things right handed as PE teachers, coaches etc had trouble with the lefty thing. I throw a ball lefty but bat right. Can kind of swing the bat left handed but not great. Learned to swing a golf club both ways but not great either way and can actually bowl with both hand but much better lefty. My dad taught me to do a lot of that lefty but he didn't always have the time to coach me up so it was a pain.

 

[chef jimmyj]

Went into McD's a few years ago. My order came to $9.45. Just as I was handing the kid the money, $10.45, the computer locked up. The girl looked at my money and said, I had paid too much. I said I had to get going and could I have my change. She said the computer was down and she has to wait until it comes back up to find out what my change should be. I said, " look you just owe my a Dollar." Her answer, " I'm sorry Sir but I have to wait for the computer to tell me how much you get back."
At that point I told her to forget it, grabbed my food and left.
I could not believe the kid did not have a clue how to figure change in her head. Maybe I should have suggested she GOOGLE IT!...JJ

 

[Bearcarver]

Not hard to do to an old man is confuse him. But where is this world going? Our younglings are not now taught long hand writing in school and they can't read it either. The world of computers doesn't do long hand. So no need to teach it.
Next the younglings can not read a clock with hands on it, the only way they can tell time is with a digital clock. REALLY.

Sorry but I'm old and confused.

Warren

Hey Warren,
I knew about the Math problems, but all these other things are new to me.
I guess that's because My Grandsons are 3 Cats & a Lab.

Bear

 

[HalfSmoked]

Yea Bear it is kind a discussing. Look at the new addition to 301 in DE cash less no money exchanged only easy pass accepted. So I guess there will be no money in days to come.

Warren

 

[chef jimmyj]

My 3 are in their 20's. So I don't know what is currently being taught but, 15 years ago my youngest was learning how to multiply. She was struggling with her homework and was upset about it. I sat with her to find out what was wrong. They called it Multiplying but they had to use some New Method called Lattice Multiplication????
Now I have taught Culinary Math and Multiplication to hundreds of students including Special needs kids....BUT....This Lattice System? I read the teachers Handouts, I read my daughters Book, and had my daughter try to explain it. I managed only a very basic idea how this system worked and after an hour messing with it still struggled to get a consistently correct answer!
This BS was a fix to something that was never broken. Lattice is supposed to make Multiplication more simple and, " Visual " as you lay out a Grid, aka Lattice, then manipulate the numbers and poof, you get an answer. WTF!?
I showed my daughter the way I and untold numbers of people back to what, PLATO maybe, how to multiply. She understood it in about 30 minutes and got answers for her homework in 5 minutes.
I called the Teacher to find out why they were teaching this Lattice System. She explained it came down as a mandate from the Superintendent and the teachers agreed it was Harder except for a few Visual learners, and that most of the class was struggling. I told her I had taught Melissa Traditional Multiplication and told her to use it. The teacher said that was fine and that from the following year on all the classes would be using regular Multiplication anyway.
WATCH OUT GUYS! Next some Pinhead Science Geek, will say the Best method to make Smoked Pulled Pork, is to Steam the meat for 67 minutes, Roast at 500°F for 30.5 minutes, Sous Vide 6 hours, 15 minutes, then Smoke at 225.9736°F until the bone wiggles out...JJ

 

[zwiller]

The anger about common core is legit. Wow, it is whacked. I get what they are trying to accomplish at least (do large number math in your head). For my kindergartner, it's easy if I convert math problems to candy LOL.

BTW she has weekly spelling tests.