Too much smoke??

Discussion in 'Bacon' started by naj250, May 19, 2016.

  1. I recently cured and cold smoked two pork bellies for a friend of mine. The bacon tastes fine, but it has that sort of ash smell and taste to it. Almost is if I gave it too much smoke. Cured for seven days rinsed pat it dry and overnight in frig. Cold smoked it two nights in a row with hickory. Any thoughts?
     
  2. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Sounds like too much thick smoke.

    What did you use to generate the smoke?

    Al
     
  3. I used hickory. bulk pcs. separate chamber with charcoal to start hickory.
     
  4. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    If you did not warm the bacon slabs to ambient temp or above, there could be condensate on the meat which when mixed with smoke gives an acrid flavor....   The slab should have had a pellicle formed on it before the cold smoke....

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    In my experience, a pellicle can be formed in a smoker at 120 ish in an hour or so with lots of air flow.... or in front of a fan on a wire rack at room temp, once the meat has warmed up to room temp..... Meat that is refer temp, will form condensate which dissolves the water soluble protein based pellicle or at least, makes it difficult to form...... There are no health concerns leaving meat out at room temperature, once cured, for several hours or even a day to form a pellicle... Meat that has been cured and then cold smoked, will often sit at temps in the 50-70 degree range for weeks with no ill effects....

    Culinary Institute of America... ...   http://chefsblade.monster.com/training/articles/966-how-to-smoke-meat?page=2

    Pellicle formation

    Before cured foods are smoked, they should be allowed to air-dry long enough to form a tacky skin, known as a pellicle. The pellicle plays a key role in producing excellent smoked items. It acts as a kind of protective barrier for the food, and also plays an important role in capturing the smoke’s flavor and color.

    Most foods can be properly dried by placing them on racks or by hanging them on hooks or sticks. It is important that air be able to flow around all sides. They should be air-dried uncovered, in the refrigerator or a cool room. To encourage pellicle formation, you can place the foods so that a fan blows air over them. The exterior of the item must be sufficiently dry if the smoke is to adhere.

    As noted in the pictorials below from Marianski, cold smoke penetrates farther into cool meat than hot smoking.... So, cold smoked products will "appear" to have less smoke... In my experience here also, the flavor is deep into the meat and a rich depth of flavor not experienced when smoke is applied hot...
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2016
  5. Thanks Dave for a great explanation. So in to future I need to either let the bacon sit at room temp for a couple of hours or give some heat not higher the 100 or 120, then apply smoke. Acrid flavor is exactly the correct word.
     
  6. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    100-120 is to dry the surface and preheat the slab...    then cold smoke with the smoker above ambient...   at times, I have to cold smoke at night to keep the temp down....   I cold smoke below 70 to keep the belly fat from starting to melt.....
     
  7. Dry overnight at room temperature then cold smoke with a thin blue smoke, any type of white smoke will give a bitter taste

    I cold smoke for 72 hours (not continuously) over a period of 7 days and always resting at room temperature 

    I do an additional 7 days of drying/maturing  also at room temperature 
     
  8. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    ..........[​IMG].........   I've read GREAT reviews about Brican's bacon.....   I'm trying his method on my next batch....
     
  9. Someone has been talking while I have been away [​IMG]
     
  10. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Wedzarnicza Brac........  Redzed tagged you....
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2016
  11. And how do you apply blue smoke? Can you explain please?
     
  12. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    By building a "proper fire"...  coals and chunks or sawdust in a smoke generator....   controlling the air...    Hot enough to burn off the volatiles....  Good air flow for a "secondary" burn....

     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2016

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