Summer Sausage Question (Update with QView)

Discussion in 'Sausage' started by bloc004, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. bloc004

    bloc004 Fire Starter

    I made elk summer sausage last night/ this morning.  I had 2/3 very lean elk and 1/3 pork.  I stuffed 11 casings:


    I put in the smoker @ 6:00 PM at 125 for an hour, then smoked at 125 for 3.5 hours.  It was 10:30 and I wanted to get some sleep so I put them in the oven @ 170 and checked internal temp every couple hours.  At 6:30 AM this morning, they were still only at 127 internally.  

    Does this seem really long????

    I mean, i was going on 12 hours and only at 127 internally.  Let me know your thoughts.

    FYI, my smoker is in my profile pic and maintains a steady temp, and my thermometers are accurate (tested).
  2. solaryellow

    solaryellow Limited Mod Group Lead

    That does seem off to me. How did you have them placed in the oven? Was there a gap between all of them or was it a big pile?

    Just out of curiousity, why did you keep them at 125* for so long? I usually start at 100* for an hour and then bump the smoker up 10* every 30 minutes until I get up to 180* and then hold that until the summer sausage hits 160* IT.
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2011
  3. bloc004

    bloc004 Fire Starter

    I had them spaced out in the oven with none of them touching.

    I usually use a propane burner, but being 90 degrees outside, i cant keep it low enough, so I used an electric hot plate instead and that is as hot as it would go.  So I figured instead of interrupting the process, i would just finish the smoke at 125, and finish in the oven.  so basically the only reason was that I couldn't go higher. 

    I will do a q view, as it turned out good, just wondering if these times are unheard of.

    Do you think because I didnt raise the temp over 125 for the first bit, that that didnt help it along?
  4. solaryellow

    solaryellow Limited Mod Group Lead

    Was there a lot of connective tissue in the ground meat? I am also wondering if the cycling of the oven element might have something to do with it.

    No, I was just curious why you held it at that temp for so long. I thought I might learn something new. [​IMG]
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2011
  5. bloc004

    bloc004 Fire Starter

    The oven element could have been an issue, but I am not to sure I understand what that issue is.

    Here is the Q View, just tried some and it tastes great, has great color and great texture, so it doesnt really matter, just trying to figure out why it would take so long.  This is my first summer sausage run.

    6 lbs of very lean elk, 3 lbs of pork shoulder, 2 packages of LEM summer sausage mix.


    Half mixed with High Temp Cheddar


    Half Mixed with Jalepenos and High Temp Pepper Jack




    Stuffed and ready for a good night sleep.


    Hanging out in the smoke, all Hickory for 3.5 hours @ 125 degrees.


    After 3 hours hou smoke and 7.5 hours in the oven, brought to temp in a pot of water on the stove top, then put into an ice bath.


    This was the transition log from cheddar to jalapeno pepper jack, so there is a little bit of everything in this one.  Very pleased with the results!!!!

    Last edited: Jul 12, 2011
  6. solaryellow

    solaryellow Limited Mod Group Lead

    I am confused about something. Did you eventually take them to proper temp or did you call it quits at 127* IT?

    Edit: Nevermind. Just saw the comment about taking them to temp in the pot.

    Oven elements cycle and don't supply a steady constant temperature when cooking.
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2011
  7. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    They sure look good!
  8. bluebombersfan

    bluebombersfan Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Look great!  Is that a homemade recipe or store bought?  I have been tempted to try one of the store bought summer sausage kits but have not found a REALLY good kit from the store bought stuff......(snack sticks etc).....
  9. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    It certainly looks good!!!

    And a nice bit of BearView in the end !!!

    Thanks for showing,

  10. bloc004

    bloc004 Fire Starter

    It is store bought LEM Recipe packet.  I have been pretty pleased with their stuff.  The nice thing about the packets (that I buy) is they have the cure measured out for you.  I will eventually begin venturing out and adjusting it to my liking, but it is a good way to learn in the beginning.  I figure I will get the cooking methods down and then when that is automatic, begin playing with recipes.
  11. beer-b-q

    beer-b-q Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looks Great to me...
  12. bluebombersfan

    bluebombersfan Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Looks awesome, I have not tried the LEM ones but will surely try this one!!!  Thanks!
  13. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Look's great to me. [​IMG]
  14. fpnmf

    fpnmf Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looking good!!

  15. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    looks great....................  [​IMG]       the cheddar and jalapenos seem to be a favorite in my kielbasa according to my friends........... I bet your summer sausage was awesome......................
  16. Nice looking SS. How is the high temp cheese. Is it like real cheese?
  17. bloc004

    bloc004 Fire Starter

    The cheeses tasted great, I really liked the pepper jack.  Yes they taste like real cheese.  I got them from Butcher & Packer
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2011

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