Mesquite bean powder in a dry rub? (UPDATED with Q-View)

Discussion in 'Sauces, Rubs & Marinades' started by hewgag, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. hewgag

    hewgag Fire Starter

    Here in Texas we have an abundance of Mesquite trees. They are EVERYWHERE!! I recently read up on how to process the beans into a flour like powder that can be used in just about any baking you can think of as well as to sweeten smoothies. This stuff is very sweet and has a nice taste!

    I was wondering if anyone here has ever used Mesquite bean powder in a dry rub? If'n ya got a recipe please share it!!

  2. venture

    venture Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    You gotta be kidding me?  Mesquite? Sweet?

    I guess I didn't spend enough time in Texas.

    Satisfactory, brother.
  3. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

  4. hewgag

    hewgag Fire Starter

    OK! I tried this over the weekend... I made a 3 cup sized batch of "Geoff's disrobed pork massage" and added about 2 heaping tablespoons to the mix. I think It improved it ever so slightly... Im gonna try double the amount each consecutive time until it starts to overpower the other ingredients, then I can back it off a bit to get it right.

    So far sooooo good!
  5. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Like Meat said, very interesting!
  6. alaskanbear

    alaskanbear Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Gonna sit back and just watch for the end results of this one.. I love mesquite and hickory--will be very interested with what you come out with..

    RIch  [​IMG]
  7. hewgag

    hewgag Fire Starter

    Keep in mind that Mesquite Beans have an almost sweet fruity flavor..... see where I am going with this? [​IMG]  I am gonna go walk up the street to the empty field and pick some more tonite! There are about 50 trees over there... pics to come!

    Here is some info on Mesquite beans:

    Mesquite meal is rich in calcium, magnesium, potassium, iron, zinc, protein, and lysine. It has a pleasantly sweet molasses-like nutty flavor with a hint of caramel.

    For 2,000 years mesquite was a source of nutrition for Native Americans and indigenous peoples in the arid regions of the earth and used as barter with neighboring tribes.
    Medical studies of mesquite have found that despite its sweetness, mesquite flour
    (made by grinding whole pods) "is extremely effective in controlling blood sugar
    levels" in people with diabetes.
    The sweetness comes from fructose, which the body can process without insulin.
    In addition, soluble fibers, such as galactomannin gum, in the seeds and pods
    slow absorption of nutrients, resulting in a flattened blood sugar curve, unlike
    the peaks that follow consumption of wheat flour, corn meal and other common
    staples. "The gel-forming fiber allows foods to be slowly digested and absorbed
    over a four to six hour period, rather than in one or two hours, which produces a
    rapid rise in blood sugar." In addition to its great taste, the major benefits of
    mesquite meal include high dietary fiber content, high protein and a high lysine
    content. It's also a good source of manganese, potassium and zinc. The result
    is a food with the ability to stabilize your blood sugar level. This is very good news
    for diabetics, weight watchers and for those who want to eat healthier.
    For anyone who uses a meal replacement drink and finds they are hungry long
    before lunch time will love mesquite meal. Just add a tablespoon of mesquite meal
    to your drink. It will help you stave off hunger for about 4 to 6 hours.

    Blending Mesquite with other foods helps to lower the glycemic load of high carb
    foods. A high lysine content makes it the perfect addition to other grains that are
    unusually low in this amino acid. As flour, it is generally used in combination with
    other flours using about 30% mesquite to 70% grain or rice flour. When used as a
    flour substitute, or as a condiment, you won't get hungry so fast, as it reduces the
    amount of sugar that is stored as fat and prevents blood sugar spikes.
    Mesquite meal is great for flavoring steaks, chicken, pork and fish. It can be added
    to vegetable stir-fries, scrambled eggs, biscuits, breads, soups, even ice cream. The
    list is endless.

    Scientific studies have shown that many of these desert plants eaten for food have
    fibers that are mucilaginous or like gel, a characteristic that allows them to keep some
    water in their dry environment. Other studies have shown that when such fibers were
    consumed the digestion was further slowed because it took more energy to break
    them down. Sugars would then enter the bloodstream at a steady rate for about four
    to six hours. During this time the pancreas of a person who has diabetes may be able
    to make sufficient insulin to handle the sugar. The gel from the plants turns into a barrier
    between carbohydrates and the enzymes that disintegrate them. In a symbiotic
    relationship these slow acting carbohydrates and soluble fibers work together to keep the
    body sensitive to insulin and keep blood sugars from greatly rising after one has eaten.

    Nutrition Facts Ingredients: 100% natural mesquite meal
    Serving Size: 2 Tablespoons (15 g)

    Amount Per Serving
    Calories: 30 Calories from Fat: 2
    Sodium 0 mg
    Total Carbohydrates 6 g
    Dietary Fiber 3 g
    Sugar 1 g
    Protein 1 g

    Pods are quite sweet and whole pod composition is 80% carbohydrate, 13% protein, 25% fiber, and 3% fat .
    Not a significant source of fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, vitamins A and C, calcium
    or iron. They grind the entire mesquite bean (pod) and producea meal that is 11 percent to 17 percent protein.
    All of our natural Mesquite Meal and Flour is grown from areas free from irrigation, tilling, pesticides and commercial fertilizers.
    Analysis Report
    Crude protein %.
    8.94 Good.

    Digestibility(in vitro) %.
    70 Good.

    Metabolisible energy MJ/Kg.
    10.2 Good.

    Phosphorus %.
    0.1 Slightly low.

    Sulphur %.
    0.14 Good.

    Potassium %.
    1.2 Good.

    Sodium %.
    0.12 Normal.

    Calcium %.
    0.47 o.k.

    Magnesium %.
    0.12 o.k.

    Copper ppm.
    3 Slightly low.

    Zinc ppm.
    15 Slightly low.

    Manganese ppm.
    12 Low.

    Iron ppm.
    130 Good.

    Prosopis julifera (glandulosa), Prosopis pubescens, and Prosopis velutina
    (velvet mesquite)
    The mesquite tree grows in the desert regions throughout the world, areas not suitable for most agriculture. These trees can be found in the US from central Texas to southeastern California and up in the Utah. On 25% of the planet spices of mesquite, prosopis, can be found growing without any assistance from fertilizers, pesticides, irrigation or capitalization. These trees take little cultivation.
    Today, mesquites are found mainly below 5,000' elevation. The mesquite root system is the deepest known, reaching in some rare cases more than 100 feet down, though 90% of the tree's roots are located in the upper 3 feet of soil. This root system gives them a strong competitive advantage in floodplains, where they are by far most commonly found. Where
    they occur on dry uplands, they are reduced to small shrubs in size.

    Mesquite as medicine: The roots, bark, and leaves are cold and dry in nature. They are
    antifungal, antimicrobial, astringent, antiseptic, and antispasmodic.
    A powder or tea can be made from any of the above materials for athlete's foot and general fungal infections. This disinfecting wash or powder is wonderful for
    mild infections, stings, bites, sores, and scrapes.
    The leaves and pods can be made into an eye wash for eye inflammations of all kinds including pinkeye/conjunctivitis. Diarrhea, dysentery, stomach ulcers, dyspepsia,
    and most G. I. tract inflammations are soothed and astringed by the leaves, roots,
    and bark. The white inner bark is used as an intestinal antispasmodic. Being cooling and drying (astringent) the bark is also useful in stopping excessive menstrual
    bleeding and reducing fevers. The powdered leaves at one time were sprinkled on a
    newborns umbilical stump to prevent infections. Poulticed, the leaves were used topically for headaches. The young shoots, ground and toasted, were used
    to dissolve kidney stones.

    The mesquite gum or resin is warmer in nature. It is soothing and tonifying, and provides much of its healing qualities through its natural mucilage
    content. Dissolved in water it is used as a G.I. tonic to rehabilitate impaired and abused intestines. It greatly assists intestinal healing after surgery.
    After bouts of dysentery, diarrhea, stomach/intestinal distress, and food poisoning,
    it is used as a restorative. It also is a wonderful soother to stomach/intestinal pain,
    ulcers, colitis, hemorrhoids, sore throats, painful teeth and gums, and mouth
    sores. Externally it is equally effective on burned, chapped, and raw skin.
    Like the other parts of mesquite the resin is also an eye soother and at one time
    was used internally for respiratory problems.

    Mesquite for food: The pods may be used in many ways.
    One way is by grinding them into flour with a metate or hammer mill or something equivalent and using the meal as you see fit.
    The flour can be added to breads, cookies and similar things or it can be eaten by itself. Mesquite pods have lots of natural sugars, protein, calcium, and soluble fiber, which make it a nutritious and tasty food from the desert.
    Another method is to
    simmer 1 lb. of pods in 1 gallon of water for 30 mins., strain, remove pods and simmer
    the liquid until a thicker consistency is achieved. Keep repeating this process with the same pods several times and then switch to new ones if necessary to build up
    the volume of sweet mesquite liquid in order to simmer down into syrup. / message
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2011
  8. And here I thought mesquite was only for smoking wood. I learn so much here.
  9. alaskanbear

    alaskanbear Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Wow, I am impressed beyond words.. thanks so very much Hewhag!!  No trees of same here in Alaska, gonna have to find a brother to ship me some.. I gots to try this out..

  10. hewgag

    hewgag Fire Starter

    I picked about 5 lbs of pods yesterday. It was about 102F in the shade so I couldn't get as much as I wanted too. I have them drying in the oven at 200F after a nice hot water rinse to clean them off. I'll snap some pics of them in the morning. Most of them were on the ground and what was on the trees was pretty much green and unripe. I'll hit these in another week or so. the house smells soooo good right now from them being in a warm oven!! Cant wait to toss 'em in a blender and make flour out of 'em! I'll Q-View the process fer ya'll!!

    ...I wonder if I can smoke the flour????? Hmmmmmmmm.......... [​IMG]
  11. WOW this all sounds pretty interesting I lived in TX for several years and now in OK, and I never heard of this maybe that is why the horses all ate them gonna have to give it a try thanks
  12. Yes you can smoke flour.  Squirrel has done it.
  13. hewgag

    hewgag Fire Starter

    Here are some pics as promised. 


    Here are the beans broken up into quarters. Makes loading into the blender easier and some of the moister ones were able to dry a bit easier.


    First run of about a handful of beans resulting in a coarse flour.


    The Blend-o-fyer 9000® with some Mesquite flour being pummeled.


    Mad Scientist Lab!!! Muuuahahahahaa!!! The plastic pitcher holds the first run coarse grind. The large steel bowl has
    the finished product which has passed through the worlds smallest freekin' sifter... grrr.... The small steel bowl is the
    larger pieces that wont blend as fine as I'd like it too. I ran this through a third time and got it a little bit finer. You can
    blend this as much as you like to get it as fine as you desire. But it doesn't have to be ultra fine.


    The finished product!! Made a little over 4 cups! The smell and flavor is sweet with hints of raisin, cinnamon, chocolate..... it's 
    hard to describe.

    [​IMG]  Enjoy!!
  14. hewgag

    hewgag Fire Starter

    Yet another update.......

    I just whipped up a small batch of rub with a HEALTHY portion about 3 heaping tablespoons full of the Mesquite powder applied liberally to the rib-cut pork loin (sort of like fat pork chops cut to look like ribs).... anyways.... it was off the chain crazy good!! The flavor is very complimentary to pork!! I did not smoke these as I did not want to have too many flavors going on... I just did a quick hot sear, kicked the fire back a little and let them cook through. Popped them into a sauce pot with lid to let them steam/braise until cooled. They were bigtime delish!!

    I am going to harvest much MUCH more Honey Mesquite beans ASAP!
  15. ecto1

    ecto1 Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    I have been telling my wife I wanted to try this for about a year now.   I am glad someone else did now I know it would work.  I grew up with lots of mesquite beans all over the yard and have even had freash mesquite sap before. 
  16. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Now this is sounding really great, man I love this place. [​IMG]
  17. "The smell and flavor is sweet with hints of raisin, cinnamon, chocolate"

    That sounds really good.

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