Char-Griller Smokin Pro with firebox- Mods

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Hey guys. This thread makes me want to rush out and buy this smoker. I did do a little searching and Home Depot sells a larger "Outlaw" version ($159, 1000sq in cooking surface) of the grill portion that would be a little bigger and still accepts the side firebox.

Did see this accessory on Chargriller's website and thought it was worth posting:

a charcoal basket- $10, looked pretty good....

http://www.chargriller.com/shop/bbq-...al-basket.html
 
Hey! I got one of these great things too, and yes to your question about the charcoal carrier in the main chamber can be used as in that manner. What I normally do is flip the carrier upside down and hang it as high as I can and then take foil and cover the right/left gaps so that the heat comes from the SFB out and up and spreads along the entire length of the charcoal carrier and foil. I have noticed that I am well within 15 degrees from hot side to cool side doing this.

As far as sealing the seams, use super heavy duty foil, fold it over several times and then press it down along the edges of the lower lip, not the upper lip of the lid. Seems tedious I know, but it works well, plus it makes clean up a snap!

I have also used heavy duty foil and lined the entire bottom area of my main chamber, this allows me to use somewhat less fuel to acheive the same temp (going on the fact that the foil in the chamber reflects the heat back upwards into the upside down charcoal carrier which then spreads it out evenly to the left/right) No tuning plate needed after that.

For hitting your 225 and holding, I start my fire with charcoal in a chimney starter, and yes I can hit 375 pretty easily using the SFB, and open upper exhaust all the way open. Once my coals are hot, I dump them into the basket in my SFB that I had made (10x7x5) and put that right next to the opening of main chamber. Shut the main door and close the SFB vent down to barely an 1/8 opening and let it burn for about 40 minutes or so.

I think I read it somewhere on thesmokering.com website someone actually did the math and found to get the optimal exhaust draw for a more complete and efficient thermal burn thus using less fuel, your exhaust needs to extend UPWARDS 2/3 the length of your main chamber. My chamber is 29 inches in length, so my chimney stack from the opening on the lid extends 19 inches roughly upward.

Also, the direction in which your SFB is facing has a lot to do with it too, is it facing into or away from the breeze/wind? The natural breeze feeds the fire and if it's not getting something, yeah, it's going to be a bit harder to keep the fire going and constant.

Placement? Where's it at? I noticed a tremendous difference this past weekend when I used my smoker in the garage (had the garage front and back door open all the way for venting of course!) I had no problem hitting and maintaining a constant 300 for over 4 hours using the SFB with an ocassional basket shake and an extra handful of charcoal at a certain point.

The biggest thing for me was forgetting that the stock therm is no where close to cooking level temp. I went out and bought a 6" high temp therm from the store, popped the lid handle off and drilled a hole large enough that I still had to wiggle a bit but was able to get the stem of the therm into the lid all the way. Put the handle back on and presto, I have a visible accurate temp gauge at grate level.

Most of my learning has come from (luckily) just firing the grill empty and learning how it burns, making changes incrementally and waiting and noting the effective changes. Get a notebook and log what you do and what you change and the outcome, you'll zero in on complete temp control alot faster because you won't have to try to remember all the stuff you did last week, just look it up and you'll already know where to begin.

I personally fire my grill 4x - 6x a week even if i'm not going to cook on it but I always try to cook something even if it's just one or two steaks. Plus it helps to "burn in" the grill faster too.

Just my $.02 worth.
 
someone here gave me this idea... looks like what you might be after... works pretty well... till I get the real tuning plate mod done. hope this helps!
 
As everyone who owns a CGSP knows, the charcoal grate melts after about the first good long smoke. I havent had the time to get a basket for mine yet, but i did find a quick fix get me by solution. 48" stick of 1/4 inch cold rolled steel, cut in 3 pcs and welded to the underside of the grate(after bending it back). ill get a basket one of these days, but this will do till then.
 
Hey everyone, the Black Charcoal Wok from Lowe's ($10) fits the side firebox as well if you're looking for another charcoal basket option in a hurry!
 
Thanks for this thread I just got one of these and was looking for mods to it. This is a wonderful site and you are all so helpful
 
I'm gonna try killing two birds with one stone - or more precisely, with 2 pans.

An 18" metal sheet fits almost at the top of the smoke port from the firebox. So I'm considering simply a pair of 18" x 11" (or 12" if I can't find 11") baking pans, perhaps an inch or two deep. Put one right next to the firebox, then space the other so that there's 2" between each pan. Fill 'em with hot water plus my choice of aromatic agent (such as beer), and it should function as a) a baffle, b) tuning ports, c) temperature stabilizer, d) drip pan, and e) basting/mop pan!

On that note, one could also do a reverse-flow mod by simply using an 18" x 26" commercial baking pan. And you never know, maybe I'll try that too.
 
coyote,
commercial cake pans come in the 1/2 sheet size of 18 X 12 X 2 and full cake pans are 18 X 24 X 2. You can buy from any restaurant supply store. ask for cake pans, not sheet pans. sheet pans are only about 3/4" deep. good luck and post some pics!
 
Bishop,
The nice thing on a new Char Griller Pro is uou can put the fire box on the stack side of the smoke box if you dont punch the foot ball shaped hole out of the one side. You can use a sawzal to cut the hole out on the stack side to make it reverse flow. If you have a used smoker you can cut the hole and bolt or weld a plug over the side where the fire box was previously. Its a totaly doable job. I may have to go out and find one just to turn into a reverse flow with qview to show how it was done, and I'm no metal worker!
 
There would be real inconveniences with that. Beside having to cut the hole, you'd have to go around the back of the grill to maintain the fire - not great ergonomics.

Were I to do the reverse-flow mod, I'd simply get a 2nd stack that would be mounted on the firebox side.
 
That's thinking outside the box (no pun intended) Dave!

Yeah you could drop another chimney, as it sits though it obviously couldn't be reverse flow.

Let's see how it looks when you're all done with it Coyote!
 
New to this forum and smoking in general. I have a vertical Brinkman with a few mods that I have made. One of the mods I did was to take the water pan and put play sand in it. Since the sand has glass, in granular form, as it heats up it become hard like a giant heating plate and that's how I get constant temps with it.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but has anyone used a large baking pan covered in sand from the opening baffled firebox all the way down the bottom of the grill?

Also instead of metal for tuning plates what about thick ceramic tile or Spanish roofing tile? I think that would retain the heat better.
 
I have the 2nd chimney... but this winter's experience is showing me that installing it might be pointless, as wintertime smokes are working better with no baffle. Much more heat is getting into the smoke chamber, and with 30 degree temps and 20mph winds I need all the heat I can get.
 
u could always take some dry vent and instead of just lowering where the exhaust is u can run it over to the fire box side. or atleast i think that should work. i have always wondered why no one does that here. it actually makes it a reverse flow in my opinion...or am i way off ????
 
I'm bumping this because I am curious what some of the more experienced guys think about my idea above ???????????
 
I was out at the local bbq supply store yesterday and saw this 1/8 inch firebox plate for the brinkman, sure it would work for alot of the smaller offsets to help keep the firebox from burning out so quick.

halfway down the page, right hand side $14.99 sounds like a pretty good deal but it may be a little costly to ship as it is bound to be a little heavy.


http://www.hawgeyesbbq.com/BBQ-Accessories6.html
 
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