Whats your point? Theres a sucker out there for everything, and he will find them. If they choose to be raked over the coals because they didn't do their homework then so be it, but its still just a BARRELRocky Richmond of Big Drum Smokers is considered the father of the UDS by most big BBQ forums. His drums are very heavy guage and the people who own them are quite happy with them.
Check out this thread, particularly Post #6
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16896
You should learn a little something about the history of a product before you go out of your way to bash someone.
Dave
My point is that he was building BDS smokers LONG before anyone knew what a UDS was. The UDS is a knockoff clone of his BDS and he went to a lot of trouble figuring out how to make it work so the rest of us who didn't want to spend the money to buy one of his could copy his design.Whats your point?
How do you know that he has put minimal work into it? Because there's no nipples, valve, handles or pretty paint job? Lots of folks just drill holes and use fridge magnets or some other device to control airflow. Can't see the inside of the drum from the pics. You don't know what the charcoal basket looks like. Maybe it's all welded stainless steel.Originally Posted by pandemonium
and cant get over the fact that he has put as minimal work into them as i have ever seen
Umm . . . okay . . . and why don't you think that would work for some of his customers? Because the 2 that you built weren't done that way? Maybe the bottom rack is for chicken. Maybe he uses a diffuser plate on the shorter ones. Lots of ways to make it work. Just because it doesn't fit your concept of how the UDS should be doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is doing.ohh and dont get me going on how he put two cooking racks in a reg sized barrel with no dome lid?
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Originally Posted by pandemonium
and cant get over the fact that he has put as minimal work into them as i have ever seen
Originally Posted by DDave
How do you know that he has put minimal work into it? Because there's no nipples, valve, handles or pretty paint job? Lots of folks just drill holes and use fridge magnets or some other device to control airflow. Can't see the inside of the drum from the pics. You don't know what the charcoal basket looks like. Maybe it's all welded stainless steel.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion as is pandemonium. I would say that it is hard to tell if the price matches the product unless one can see the product in person. Clearly they match the product for many people because he is still selling them.I know I shouldn't say anything here, because I know next to nothing. But if you browse that site a bit, and look at the prices of the products, replacement parts, and compare to the pictures, he must feel that his effort no matter how little must be worth way more than the product, because those prices are ridiculous. Sorry, but IMHO I must agree with pandemonium, those prices just don't match the product.
LOLCongrats on discovering the bds . now the prices he charges are rediculus for the quality .
For his prices there should be brass ball valves on risers for any intake. should have domed lid etc etc.
I believe in paying a man a fair price for his talents and labor but the big ones dont cost anymore than $250 in material if you go top of the line everything . If it takes you over $750 in labor you shouldn't ever have tools in your hand.