So you want to try smoking your first Pork Shoulder

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No mention of wood but can I assume you are using chips? If so, I highly recommend (as many here have already done) stop using chips and instead start using the A-MAZE-N Pellet Smoker (tray). It provides continual smoke and one tray full can last up to 10-11 hours. BTW keep your top vent open. Hard to define lack of taste as its a very subjective sort of thing. Personally, I wait until I know for sure the butt has gone into the stall. Have seen it happen anywhere from 150-170º. On a 9lb'er that seems to occur somewhere between 5-6 hours. If in question I continue to smoke for 6 hours before deciding to wrap or just continue smoking as mentioned in the recipe above. Lastly, I always rest in a cooler with towels for a minimum of 2 hours. Wonderful things happen during that time.
 
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No mention of wood but can I assume you are using chips? If so, I highly recommend (as many here have already done) stop using chips and instead start using the A-MAZE-N Pellet Smoker (tray). It provides continual smoke and one tray full can last up to 10-11 hours. BTW keep your top vent open. Hard to define lack of taste as its a very subjective sort of thing. Personally, I wait until I know for sure the butt has gone into the stall. Have seen it happen anywhere from 150-170º. On a 9lb'er that seems to occur somewhere between 5-6 hours. If in question I continue to smoke for 6 hours before deciding to wrap or just continue smoking as mentioned in the recipe above. Lastly, I always rest in a cooler with towels for a minimum of 2 hours. Wonderful things happen during that time.

Using chips. I do have an amazen Tube, not the tray. I have used the tube in my MES 40" and it creates smoke for 4-5 hours. Do you think the pellets would make a stronger smoke flavor than chips? I've never thought about that before.
I do always keep top vent open as well as the old chip loader drawer to allow more air flow from the add on generator.
 
Seems like an ok rub although a bit heavy on the sugar depending on actual quantity used. Hmm... my wife cannot stand anything hot. Even pepper is a problem for her, but for some reason she absolutely loves the above recipe with the spices listed. You might consider trying it. Back when we used an MES, I definitely preferred using pellets vs chips. The smoke is significantly more consistent and thus I believed provided more flavor.
 
There are many ways, and all of them can give great results. One of the reasons is that pork butts are very forgiving. Here is the recipe I usually pass on to those first starting with a smoker. The results are predictable and we haven't heard from anyone who hasn't enjoyed the end result. It's a modified version that originally came from Alton Brown.

Smoked Pork Butt
Recipe: modified by Matt, ORG: Alton Brown
Serving Size: 12

Ingredients:

9 pounds Boston butt, bone in, prefer non-moisture enhanced
Canola spray
apple juice, in spray bottle
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Brine
8 ounces molasses grandma's
2/3 cup pickling salt , use only 1/2 cup if meat is "moisture enhanced"
2 quarts bottled water
2 1/2 gal. zip-lok bag
- - -
Rub: this makes more than what a usual butt requires
2 tsp whole cumin seed
2 tsp whole fennel seed
2 tsp whole coriander
2 tablespoon chili powder
2 tablespoon onion powder
2 tablespoon paprika, not smoked

Directions:

1. Brine the Butt for 15 hours Combine molasses, pickling salt, and water in a 2-1/2 gallon zip-lok bag, dissolve completely. Completely submerge the Boston butt in brine by squeezing out the air and sliding the zip-lok. Place the bag with meat into a very large mixing bowl and weigh the top down with 2 cans of beans from the pantry to keep everything submerged for marinating. Let sit in refrigerator for a minimum of 12 hours. 15 hours is ideal.

2. Prepare the RUB Place cumin seed, fennel seed, and coriander in food grinder and grind fine. Transfer to a small mixing bowl and stir in chili powder, onion powder, and paprika.

3. Wearing latex gloves: Remove Boston butt from brine and pat dry. Lightly spay the butt with canola oil. Sift the rub evenly over the meat and then lightly pat down to help the rub adhere. I use a small 2” dia mesh strainer for this, tapping it on the side to sift the rub onto the meat. It gives a very even coating. More rub will adhere to the meat if you are wearing gloves during the application. Cover every inch of the meat.

4. SMOKE: I use the smoke setting of 185º for 1-2 hr, then @245-250º until IT reaches 160º (155-165º is fine), usually takes 5-6 hours. SPRAY w/APPLE JUICE every hour starting after hour 2. If wanting stronger smoke flavor, add the tube smoker.

5. SMOKER FINISH: your choice - either place butt in pan and cover with foil OR, leave as is. Pan & foil will get done quicker and if doing so I raise the heat to 300º. Bark will be soft but plenty of juice *. Note, a straight smoke at 225º should take 10-12 hours, but less at 245º or higher. Begin checking meat for doneness after 10 hours or an IT of 195º, whichever comes first. Be aware though it could take longer i.e. 13-16 hours or so. Meat can’t tell time, it’s done when it wants to be.

* If the butt is unwrapped in a covered pan be careful when attempting to remove. Last one I did this way was full to the top with juice due the brining and you’ll need to syphon some of it out before moving.

6. OVEN FINISH - faster @ IT 160º’ish: Remove, insert an electronic meat thermometer making sure it’s not touching the bone, tightly double wrap in alum foil. Note: after 5-6 hours of smoke, the meat won't absorb much more, so you are essentially cooking it until done at this point. Put wrapped butt into a large tin foil container (11.5 x 9.25 internal), and place in oven at 300 ºF. Continue the cook until 200-205ºF. Meat is unpredictable, make sure to set your thermometer alarm to go off when it hits 203º. Can be anywhere from 2 to 4 hours in the oven but usually close to 2.

7. So which finishing method do I use? Depends on the time available, when there’s plenty, leave it in the smoker. We do not mind the softer bark and the total time is less using the oven method.

8. Pull Butt when IT is 203-205º & REST. Remove from oven/smoker. The meat still needs to rest for at least 2 hours. Place the panned butt in a large sealed cooler surrounded with a couple of bath towels to help maintain warmth. REMEMBER: to be safe, meat should be kept above 150º, so I leave the thermo probe in the meat and monitor it while it sits.

9. Pull meat apart with forks. You should be able to grab the bone and easily pull it out clean. Can be served plain, or in sandwiches with maybe a side of coleslaw. I suggest a good barbecue dipping sauce like Rum Sweet Heat (see below).
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I am not getting enough flavor in pork butts. I dry rub overnight in fridge. Have tried wrapping, not wrapping. Injecting, not injecting.

it almost always tastes like it has no seasoning at all. Almost like right out of the packahe into the smoker.
I dont have the answers as im an amateur to smoking meat but think I understand what youre trying to describe.
Helped my mom with trying to get her pork butts tender in her Traeger & I would describe the end flavor result as:
The meat within the butt well below the bark is bland "natural" tasting as the saltiness of the spices / rub doesnt penetrate throughout the entire butt.
She doesnt have the problem with tri-tip, I was the one trying to encourage her to trying smoking a butt till its fall off the bone tender but lacks the saltiness throughout the meat.
I get that you can add additional seasoning to the meat after you shred but dont think you guys are doing that....
This brine recipe would help with that but dont think majority of the guys here are going through the added trouble of brining their butts..
THOUGHTS, ANYONE???
 
I don't bother Brining Butts. For added flavor, I pull the meat and add a Finishing Sauce. I have a Sweet one, a balanced Sweet and Sour sauce and a Tangy Vinegar based Finishing Sauce. I switch out depending on my mood and what my crew has a taste for...JJ
 
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Using chips. I do have an amazen Tube, not the tray. I have used the tube in my MES 40" and it creates smoke for 4-5 hours. Do you think the pellets would make a stronger smoke flavor than chips? I've never thought about that before.
I do always keep top vent open as well as the old chip loader drawer to allow more air flow from the add on generator.


MJB,
I just happened to run into this old one. You probably fixed your problems by now on your Butts, but just in case:
If your smoke flavor isn't strong enough, try Hickory---It has a stronger smoke flavor, Yet it's not offensive. It's almost all I use.

As for the Seasoning:
When you season (Rub) a Butt, you have to use a lot more seasoning than you do for Ribs, Chicken, and nearly everything else, because of how thick the Butt is. When you Pull it or shred it, the ratio between meat & seasoning is way different than with all the thinner meats you smoke.

Hope this helps,

Bear
 
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MJB,
I just happened to run into this old one. You probably fixed your problems by now on your Butts, but just in case:
If your smoke flavor isn't strong enough, try Hickory---It has a stronger smoke flavor, Yet it's not offensive. It's almost all I use.

As for the Seasoning:
When you season (Rub) a Butt, you have to use a lot more seasoning than you do for Ribs, Chicken, and nearly everything else, because of how thick the Butt is. When you Pull it or shred it, the ratio between meat & seasoning is way different than with all the thinner meats you smoke.

Hope this helps,

Bear
Bear, thanks for replying to this old post. I'd forgotten about it myself, LOL. The Butts I've done since this was originally posted are improving flavor wise. I've stuck with only Hickory as you suggest, and I'm back to using the AMAZN tube instead of the tray as well as the MB Slow Smoke Generator. The next one I do , I'm going to butterfly it first, not all the way through, just 3/4 splitting in half, then putting rub all over the outer sides as well as the inner areas from splitting it. Putting back together to cook. This will get more flavor inside and outside and more potential for bark. I got the suggestion from this forum a few weeks ago from smokerjim smokerjim and a few others.
Just waiting for the sale prices to kick in. Thanks again for your invaluable advice.

Mike
 
I don't bother Brining Butts. For added flavor, I pull the meat and add a Finishing Sauce. I have a Sweet one, a balanced Sweet and Sour sauce and a Tangy Vinegar based Finishing Sauce. I switch out depending on my mood and what my crew has a taste for...JJ
Thanks JJ, I've been using your Tangy Vinegar based finishing sauce on Pork, Steak, Chicken, etc. It's excellent! I'm sure I've told you before, but felt the need to tell you again. Many thanks.

Mike
 
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Thanks Mike. Always nice to get a pat on the back...JJ
 
It also helps the flavor if you pan or wrap, and mix back in some of the juices/drippings when you shred it (as that has some rub flavor in it).
 
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Bear, thanks for replying to this old post. I'd forgotten about it myself, LOL. The Butts I've done since this was originally posted are improving flavor wise. I've stuck with only Hickory as you suggest, and I'm back to using the AMAZN tube instead of the tray as well as the MB Slow Smoke Generator. The next one I do , I'm going to butterfly it first, not all the way through, just 3/4 splitting in half, then putting rub all over the outer sides as well as the inner areas from splitting it. Putting back together to cook. This will get more flavor inside and outside and more potential for bark. I got the suggestion from this forum a few weeks ago from smokerjim smokerjim and a few others.
Just waiting for the sale prices to kick in. Thanks again for your invaluable advice.

Mike


Great!!
Sounds like you got it covered real good!!

Bear
 
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