amnps issues

Discussion in 'Slicers, Grinders, Tools, Equipment' started by sipp, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. sipp

    sipp Fire Starter

    Hi I've had my AMNPS for around a year now.
    My problem with it is I can not get the pellets to turn the corner.
    I can get them lit and the first row burns fine but it never makes the bend. If i need more smoke I have to light the other end after it the first one goes out.
    The other first row will burn fine until it gets to the turn then goes out. Usually by that time I'm tired of messing with it and finish using just heat or the chip chute. Its kind of frusterating.
    I use a MES30, microwave the pellets, chip chute in-out-halfway out (i've tried them all), foil tent over amnps to protect from drips. Does this happen to any one else? any suggestions?
    Thanks for any ideas you may have.
     
  2. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That's strange---I never had that problem.

    Here's some guesses & questions:

    Do you have it all the way in, against the back wall (blocking air flow)?

    Do you fill it all the way up to about 3/16 from the top of the walls?

    Are the pellets packed tight or loose?

    Did you try turning it around so the first turn will be in the front of the smoker?

    What kind of pellets are you using (flavor)?

    Are many of your pellets a bit long, like 3/4" or longer?

    Bear
     
  3. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Also.......have you had an exorcist look at it?

    Has the AMAZ N ever seen you in your underwear?

    And did you mix enough "eye of the newt" powder with the pellets?

    Maybe a Smoke Daddy should be in your future.
     
  4. sipp

    sipp Fire Starter

    Hi Thanks for the reply.
    I am not sure how close the amnps is to the back but I didnt think there was much room front to back sitting on those rails.
    The amnps is full almost to the top and poured in from the container that they were microwaved in then leveled out smooth across the rows.
    I usually put the lit end towards the back and closest to the chip chute.
    I try all kinds of pellets but usually use apple and Jack Daniels charcoal pellets ( i can find those locally).
    I havent had much luck at all with Mesquite or cherry pellets staying lit and i can't use nut tree pellets due to my daughter's allergy.
    I would say that the majority of the pellets are one half to three quarters of an inch long.
    thank you again for the reply i will try rotating the amnps and make sure it is centered front to back.

    Also I really enjoy your signature step by step tutorials.
    I have read most of them and I have done the dried venison and it came out great. Thank you for those as well.
     
  5. sipp

    sipp Fire Starter

    GEEROCK
    I see your point.
    Do you use a smokedaddy? I dont know much about them.
     
  6. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    HMMMMmmmm,

    Judging by your answers, the only thing I can think of is keeping it away from the front or the back. The AMNPS is 8" long, and I think an MES 30 is about 11" deep, so there should be room for 1 1/2" inches of clearance front and back.

    Other than that, just make sure you pack the corners the same way as the long stretch, because if it works in the straight-away, it should work on the bends.

    I'm also glad you like my "Step by Steps", and my Venison Dried Beef.

    Bear
     
  7. my only advice, being that i was also frustrated with the A-maze-n pellet smoker the first times i've used it, is to get the pellets lit and going very hot and good before putting it in the smoker. I always had a problem of mine going out. I find it takes just as long to get the A-maze-n going as it does a chimney of charcoal.
     
  8. trikefreak

    trikefreak Smoke Blower

    Anyone tried drilling some larger holes in a few spots to get the ampns to stay lit? I have side that will burn to middle of box, another side that always goes out at the first corner. I was thinking about this yesterday as it did it once again.
     
  9. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    A long time ago, I drilled a 3/8" hole in the left side, just below the bars. I ran an aquarium pump hose through the hole to produce air flow under the AMNPS.

    After awhile I got lazy & didn't put the hose in, and found out as long as I didn't try to use 100% Cherry, I had no problem.

    Bear
     
  10. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Yes I do. Not to say I don't have the AMAZ N products. I have all of them, but got frustrated with them with the traeger pellet cooker, my caja china roasting box, and my gen 2 mes 40. I use Todds pellet tube for my homemade smokehouse, but i got tired of maybe yes, maybe no with the other cookers. Never an issue with a smoke daddy and because it mounts on the exterior you reload at any time.
     
  11. sb59

    sb59 Smoking Fanatic

    Why not start lighting it at the turns and letting it burn its way to the ends?
     
  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That would be alright if he wants twice as much smoke, but it would still only last the same length of time.

    Bear
     
  13. sb59

    sb59 Smoking Fanatic

    What I'm thinking is if you light it at the turns and it still only burns the two outside rows but not down the middle row then it is probably an airflow problem blocking the center row.
     
  14. paulh1966

    paulh1966 Smoke Blower

    i tried a bunch of these suggestions yesterday , with and MES 30 Gen 1 i just got, still not luck. Havent tried letting the tray be 1.5" from the back yet though. If you use an aquarium pump through a hole what kind of tube did you put through the hole.
     
  15. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I only tried it once----Silicon aquarium hose.

    But then I found out I didn't need the pump & hose.

    Bear
     
  16. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I only tried it once----Silicon aquarium hose.

    But then I found out I didn't need the pump & hose.

    Bear

    Sorry about the Double Post. Forum acted goofy for a minute. Hopefully it's OK now.
     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2014
  17. paulh1966

    paulh1966 Smoke Blower

    Today I tried removing the chip tray, crushing some pellets and sprinkling them on the bottom then layer of pellets then more crushed, then more pellets etc.. also pulled the loader halfway out.. over 2 hours of smoke. Also i put the amnps so it had clearance in front and behind. No food in it though. Do you put foil to cover any drippings from hitting the pellets.. last night I was doing jerky had all 4 racks filled and it looks like quite a few drippings had hit the pellets.
     
  18. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I just put my AMNPS on the support bars. Then I cut a foil pan in half and put it upside-down above the water pan, like in the pic below:

     
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2014
  19. paulh1966

    paulh1966 Smoke Blower

    Bad thing about this is you give up using one of the racks.
     
  20. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I never used that bottom rack, even without the AMNPS or AMNS.

    It's too close to the heat for me.

    My first choice is rack #2.

    2nd choice is #1.

    3rd is #3.

    Never #4.

    If you look close, you'll see the flat piece of aluminum on the right side.

    I use that to force the heat from the heating element to the center of the smoker, instead of allowing it to go straight up & out the exhaust vent.

    I raise & lower the left side of that aluminum plate to adjust the flow. With that plate I'm able to make the heat in the left side of the smoker the same as the right side

    Bear
     

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