Vietnamese style steak tartare

Discussion in 'Beef' started by moikel, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    One of our[​IMG]  very talented local chefs,Dan Hong, put this recipe in a magazine here just now.Im going to make it but I  have to hunt around for 2 of the herbs.Saw tooth coriander & vietnamese mint. It looks great but its obviously not grilled or smoked. Can I  still put it in beef when I make it?

    Its got a distinctly Vietnamese dressing I figured theres a few members who like Asian twists on Western food.
     
  2. raptor700

    raptor700 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I'm not up on my "Asian" cuisine, but lots of members here can help.

    I say go for it!!  [​IMG]
     
  3. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I can knock this one out easy enough its a good dish here  now as we hit summer. I just have to go cross town to get herbs. As long as its  OK that its raw, its a bit outside the square .
     
  4. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    I would like to see it!...Maybe if you are Smoking a Butt or some Chixs, while you make the Tartare, it will count![​IMG]   Anything Mick, light a Cigarette!...I love Tartare...JJ
     
  5. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Sounds like a winner!
     
  6. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I knew you would like it. It seems a really clever take on a french classic .Lets face it the french once controlled Vietnam. I just have to hunt down these herbs.I  have mint in the garden but not that hot Vietnamese variety. Give me a day or two. It uses prawn crackers & those crispy fried shallots as well. It looks an absolute winner.
     
     
  7. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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    I have eaten tartare a few times in the city. it is good but if you can get some wagu beef it is out of this world. Ithink that this should make it in here for it's meat just in it's purest form. Tartare rulz
     
  8. shooterrick

    shooterrick Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    While we are a smoking BBQ forum, I see nothing wrong with a post like this as long as we don't start getting tons of non smoking topic related posts.  From time to time something out of the box should be fine.  I will be looking forward to seeing this and your future smokes.

    ShooterRick\

    Beef Mod cop.  LOL    
     
  9. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I  will only do this one,the Vietnamese take on it is the reason I  asked.I figure something different might interest a few people.Its sunday here & my friends butcher shop is shut.I can get a bit a wagyu or similiar from him during the week. I wont buy meat for a dish like this from people I  dont know. 

    I have all the dressing components ,fish sauce,caster sugar lime juice ,rice vinegar chilli oil grapeseed oil & tuong ot( pickled chilli). Just need to get herbs at the Thai market near my work
     
  10. hemi

    hemi Smoking Fanatic

    I went through all the trouble to locate and buy the ingredients for Korean Kimchi for a smoking side dish.     THEN I met the Korean lady down the street.

    Now I pick up the Napa cabbage and she does the rest..  [​IMG]
     
  11. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Some stuff is best left to the experts!! Sydney is now 4,500,000 people & very ethnically diverse .There are foodstuff out there particularly veg ,herbs& condiments that are just so" new" to a guy like me. I just figure you keep trying what interests you, kimchi not that popular with the wife.Suggests that I  go & sleep in spare room after I eat it.[​IMG]
     
     
  12. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Having a bit of trouble finding Vietnamese mint ,hoping to get it tomorrow. Have everything else. I saw another dish called  kibbeh nayeh,Lebanese version of tartare using lamb. Looks interesting as well. 

    One thing at a time & wife doesnt eat lamb.
     
  13. donr

    donr Smoking Fanatic

    After you get the original figured out, you could try to cold smoke the meat as long as you can keep the temperature safe.

    Don
     
  14. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Its one of those things that make you cautious. Raw meat shouldnt be that different from sushi in principle but you just got to be careful. I like carparcio & all that style of stuff,its summer here so I tend to lighten up my cooking  bit. Lot more seafood, things grilled over charcoal,salads & I  love tropical fruit so mango,lychee, pineapple & then the stone fruits peach/nectarine.
     
  15. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    OK I  went with a bit of sirloin,the wagyu was in the butchers opinion a bit to aged for tartare. Not going to argue. Touched up my  best knife & trimmed it ,then diced it fine.

    I made do in herbs with the following 1 bunch chives 25 coriander( cilantro) leaves 15 round mint leaves 15 vietnamese mint leaves all chopped. 1 stalk of lemon grass white part on[​IMG]ly finely sliced.[​IMG]
     
  16. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Dressing as per Dan Hong 175ml fish sauce 40g caster sugar, 40 lime juice 55ml rice vinegar 15ml chilli oil 50 ml grapeseed oil 1tabsp tuong ot(pickled minced chilli).I couldnt find tuong ot so used chilli sauce ,didnt have grapeseed oil so used peanut. I didnt measure  stuff just eyeballed it but thats just me.I reckon I  was pretty close.

    Mix dressing ,herbs &[​IMG]  beef.
     
  17. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Its 8 tabs of dressing to 400 gms meat,mix everything with hands then plate with 4 tabs crispy fried shallots sold here in big plastic tubs.If Im going with the photo Ive got its dried shallots on top of meat then the egg yolk in the middle. Serve with deep fried prawn crackers. I need to get it neat & clean  the real challenge for me.
     
  18. moikel

    moikel Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Done deal,lovely flavours.No one thing dominated. The herbs are a very Vietnamese thing,cant argue with the combination. Dressing was great,little heat but not hot,the Vietnamese mint which is not really a mint has a hot taste. Crispy shallots,prawn crackers really clever.Nice contrast texture wise.

    If it was my deal I  night have touched it up with a little [​IMG]szchuan pepper ,but the chef has a very popular restaurant here called Mrs G's & he can cut it anywhere in the world so Im not messing with his recipe. I suppose the real point is that its a fresh take on a classic. And that take comes from his Asian heritage. Hope you liked it.[​IMG]
     
  19. scubadoo97

    scubadoo97 Smoking Fanatic


    Kibbeh neyeh[​IMG]

    Also saw toothed corriander is called culantro and can be found in some ethnic markets.  Easy to grow at home and has a stronger flavor than regular cilantro.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eryngium_foetidum
     

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