I have been looking here at this site for about a year, I just wanted to post to spread the hopes of good Q. I do not have a real smoker but I do smoke on my grill. I just have to say you can get very good Q with patience and finesse. Just experiment and adjust. See Q-Veiw. And if you are at the point of giving up, Remember patience and finesse is the key any thing els is giving up. The joys of a great Q is not over rated. Q-Veiw to follow, Need ti fig out how to post pic's.