summer sausage into hard salami

Discussion in 'Sausage' started by strietcar, Jan 10, 2016.

  1. can you make summer sausage that is smoked and cured at I. t. 165,put in basement,hang to air dry,rub cooking oil on case to keep  mold off it,will it turn into hard salami?, would it be safe to eat?
     
  2. I saw it on a video on sausage making,never gave me any more detals then that,any suggestions. 
     
  3. atomicsmoke

    atomicsmoke Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Summer sausage is supposed to be OK at room temps. Turning into hard salami? It's cooked meat. It will dry but won't taste like salami.
     
  4. ok,.thank you, I will have too try
     
  5. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Let us know how it turns out.
     
  6. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    From what I have read, I think, you can't dry age meat once it is cooked....   I has to be raw and a certain amount of salt added to keep bacteria under control...  also, nitrate should have been added to keep botulism from growing during the long term drying process...
     
  7. mowin

    mowin Master of the Pit

    Think Daves right. Mix needed cure #2, where SS uses cure #1. Also think I read on SMF that the cure cooks out of the mix? If so hanging cooked meat might not be a wise decision.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2016
  8. atomicsmoke

    atomicsmoke Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Isn't summer sausage shelf stable?
     
  9. ak1

    ak1 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    It is, but I think he's trying to go in a different direction with it. I think I get it, it's... for lack of a better term "summer salami"
     
  10. atomicsmoke

    atomicsmoke Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Well ....in that case no cure#2 needed.
     
  11. I agree with SmokinAl, meat should be raw
     
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  12. sausage dried out,sorry it took so long to respond,way to hard,
     
  13. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Use of cure #1 for SS will not turn it into a hard dry cured salami. Your risk of spoilage is great. Yes it will dry. You could have mixed in ECA and let the SS dry up in the fridge 9semi dry)

    Cure #2 ferments with the dextrose to aid in dry cure salami.

    Just my way here. Do what works best for you but be safe.

    Prague Powder #1

    Also called Insta-Cure and Modern Cure. Cures are used to prevent meats from spoiling when being cooked or smoked at low temperatures (under 200 degrees F). This cure is 1 part sodium nitrite (6.25%) and 16 parts salt (93.75%) and are combined and crystallized to assure even distribution. As the meat temperate rises during processing, the sodium nitrite changes to nitric oxide and starts to ‘gas out’ at about 130 degrees F. After the smoking /cooking process is complete only about 10-20% of the original nitrite remains. As the product is stored and later reheated for consumption, the decline of nitrite continues. 4 ounces of Prague powder #1 is required to cure 100 lbs of meat. A more typical measurement for home use is 1 level tsp per 5 lbs of meat. Mix with cold water, then mix into meat like you would mix seasonings into meat.

    Prague Powder #2

    Used to dry-cure products. Prague powder #2 is a mixture of 1 part sodium nitrite, .64 parts sodium nitrate and 16 parts salt. (1 oz. of sodium nitrite with .64 oz. of sodium nitrate to each lb. of salt.) It is primarily used in dry-curing Use with products that do not require cooking, smoking, or refrigeration. This cure, which is sodium nitrate, acts like a time release, slowly breaking down into sodium nitrite, then into nitric oxide. This allows you to dry cure products that take much longer to cure. A cure with sodium nitrite would dissipate too quickly. Use 1 oz. of cure for 25 lbs. of meat or 1 level teaspoon of cure for 5 lbs. of meat when mixing with meat. When using a cure in a brine solution, follow a recipe.
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2016

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