my father has gotten very jealous of the fact that i can finally out do him on something...Que, duh (but that's about it). He started asking me a whole bunch of questions about my rig (see my sig below) and then, he asked about propane rigs. i have not the slightest clue about them other than the are "Lazy Q" rigs (jokes). anyways here are the rigs i've been looking at getting him for his birthday in a couple weeks. the old man doesn't wanna have to mess with a real fire, so the propane looks the way to go on the cheap. hate to spend more money than these units if he turns out not to like the hobby (GASP!). option #1 http://www.lowes.com/pd_190449-95393...58_4294937087_ option #2 http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Gr...atalogId=10053 option #3 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Outd...moker/12429510 option #4 (these are $124.00 @ the one closes to me. don't know why it shows it unavalible. i looked at it yesterday) http://www.walmart.com/ip/Char-Broil...moker/13056700 any help/info/suggestions would and will be of benefit and appreciated. i gotta get this figured out before 4-24-10. my brothers already gave me their part for the gift.