some old fashioned dogs and fresh brats with QVUE

Discussion in 'Sausage' started by mcmelik, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. mcmelik

    mcmelik Smoke Blower

    Well I finally got around to makeing some Curly's old fashioned weiners this past weekend. I made a few mistakes but it was my first try at it so what can you expect. My first goof up was I made the whole 25 pound batch and didn't have enough room to fit them all on my CGSP so I had to borrow a friends small smokehouse to get them all smoked. I am not sure but I think I got a bad batch of sheep casings because I couldn't get a lot of meat into them without blow outs so the size of the dogs is a little smaller then I would have liked. I think I will use hog casings next time. The next is I had a lot of them touching so I didn't get an even color on them so again a smaller batch next time is in order. I am happy with the taste of them so it wasn't a complete failure. I made half of the batch using just the seasonings from Curly's and the other half I mixed in some black pepper and some garlic festival seasoning which really made them good. My CGSP worked like a champ with the dog hanger I made for it so I was happy with that. Live and learn
    The dogs all stuffed and into the cooler over night(not enough room in the fridge for al of them

    Then on to the smoker at around 130 to dry

    about 4 hours into the smoke starting to get good color

    Out of the cold water bath and ready to package

    There you have it I think I will give myself a C- for this attempt I sure hope it turns out better next time. I sure hate to waste good meat.
    I also did some of Curly's fresh brats. They turned out just fine but man do I need to buy a stuffer. My Cabela's 1 1/2 horse grinder works great for grinding but stuffing with it leaves a little to be desired. I had my youngest there to help with the stuffing.

    Thanks for looking and any and all advice is welcome
  2. morkdach

    morkdach Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    wow thats a nice batch thanks for the qview
  3. irishteabear

    irishteabear Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Nice job. [​IMG] It definitely makes it easier to have a helper.
  4. cowgirl

    cowgirl Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Great looking dogs and brats! Nice job![​IMG]
  5. oneshot

    oneshot Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Man, those are some good looking meat tubes!!![​IMG]
  6. shooterrick

    shooterrick Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Man they sure sound and look good!
  7. que-ball

    que-ball Smoking Fanatic

    Very nice job! That was definitely a big load for your CGSP. Points for the homemade sausage hanging rack.
  8. I'm taking it for granted that you stuffed the dogs with the grinder too. If that's the case it is very hard to do with sheep casings being they are so thin. It may have helped if you would have added a bit more water to "loosen" up your product. All things said, they both look very good for your first effort[​IMG]
  9. fourthwind

    fourthwind Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    They look good man! The 100 bucks you will spend on a 5# stuffer from Gander or Northern tool will be some of the best money spent in the sausage making process. You can spend more of course, but I am happy with mine. Makes that end stuffing process a breaze instead of a chore. Cut my process time down by huge amounts.
  10. meat hunter

    meat hunter Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Nice job on the sausage. Very nice indeed. I especially like your rack you made for your smoker. I think I will have to make on like that for my offset. Oh, before I forget. You mentioned that you had some blowouts with the sheep casings? I used to get blowout all the time, until I switched brands. Try a different brand once, it may just be the ticket.
  11. WOW.... Thanks for The great post !!!

    The Q-view speaks for it self...[​IMG]
  12. pantherfan83

    pantherfan83 Smoking Fanatic

    As jimr said, when using sheep casings, it would have helped to add more liquid. That would have made it terribly difficult to stuff using your grinder though. A stuffer, would have no problem.

    Did they mostly blew out when stuffing or twisting? If when stuffing, keep the casings pulled out toward the end of your stuffing tube so there is no friction with them sliding off the tube. I've put a long section of casing on before and after using half or more of what was on the tube, a lot of force was being applied to the casing just getting it to slide off from the back of the tube. Apply minimal pressure on the casings, just enough to hold back the casings so they come off the tube evenly. If when twisting, you can't stuff them so full that you don't have room to twist. This is especially true with sheep casings because they are so thin.

    I'd suggest getting the smallest diameter hog casings that you can find for your hot dogs next time. Butcher Packer has 29/32mm. I like their size a lot (stuffed fairly loosely) for hot dogs that are not wimpy thin. You can stuff up to thin bratwurst sized, but if you try to make fat ones, they'll blow out too. 32-35mm are great for fat brats.

    You can get a 5 lb stuffer from Grizzly for $70 bucks. This is what I and several other people on SMF have and I've really heard no complaints about it. As far as I know, it's identical to the ones from Northern Tool, etc... that cost around $100. They all have plastic gears in this price range.

    You can get a 15 lb from Northern Tool that has metal gears for $230. (on occasion, I've seen it for $199)

    The bigger batches you make, the more I'd recommend getting a bigger stuffer. I wish I would've gotten a bigger one since I typically make 30 lb batches. The smaller stuffer works, but you have to reload it more often which means cranking it all the way back up.
  13. mcmelik

    mcmelik Smoke Blower

    Thanks for the advice.I had blow outs while stuffing and twisting and also quit a few pin holes in them so I am thinking it was just a bad batch of casings Hell I can't take all the blame can I LOL. They turned out about snack stick sized so I just put 2 on a bun I think the smaller hog casings are what I am looking for I will have to try that next time. I have ordered from butcher packer before and will have to give them a try.

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