Interesting opinions from Certified BBQ Judges... Especially the last comment....
Do judges notice the difference between "wet smoking" & dry" smoking?
I was wondering, is there a difference that can be noticed between a wet smoke and dry smoke?
Brice Mitchell
Lacona, Ia
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Mike S.; KCBS MCBJ &,BBQ-Brethren RJ
If your question is weather judges can tell if you use dry or moist heat, that is a difficult question to answer, since judges are not sure what method was used. In theory, more moisture the better the smoke penetration and adhesion, but an experience cook would know the right application in either method. Also I don't believe in the theory of moist heat equals moist meat.
As far as appearance that is also difficult to answer, since almost everyone uses sauces..
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Doug KCBS Master CBJ / CTC
This is a difficult question. I might be able to tell the difference as with moist heat you shouldn't get as much bark as with dry heat due to the extra moisture. But a lot of teams will wrap their meat in foil once it hits a certain time/temperature/color/cooking point/etc. and add some liquid so that the meat will braise to make it tender and moist. This can also affect the bark. Once cooking is done some will place their meat, still in foil, in a cooler or cambro. Others will take it out of the foil, sauce it, and put it back on the smoker. And I'm sure there are many, many other variations out there.
Can a judge tell when the box reaches them. Maybe 50% of the time I could. The question you should ask yourself is, "does my cooking method produce, moist, tender, juicy meat." That is the main thing I am looking for when I judge.
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Ed KCBS MCBJ
Wet Smoke/Dry Smoke?
What the hell is that? Smoke is smoke... I think
Are you wondering if having water in your cooker or not makes your meat more moist or not?
I'd say absolutley not. The moisture in your meat is from rendered fat. If you don't cook it long enough there will not be much moisture in your meat. If you cook the hell out of it, there will not be much moisture in your meat.
If you cook your meat to the perfect temperature it will be perfectly moist and will score well, and Ray will be putting a water pan in his cooker.
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Dick-MCBJ/CTC
Brice, If you are reffering to a cooker that has a large pan of water that is heated thereby basicly steaming the meat, my answer is yes,yes and yes. I can very definately taste the difference with pork. It will taste washed out and have little flavor. I am not reffering to a cooker that has a smaller water pan only to the cookers that the water pan almost completely covers the heat source. We have some whole hog cookers who also use this method and the entire hog lacks flavor. I believe the water prevents the natural wood smoke and flavor from reaching the meat. I also think many judges have also had "water steamed" pork and score it down on taste without knowing why it lacked taste.
Do judges notice the difference between "wet smoking" & dry" smoking?
I was wondering, is there a difference that can be noticed between a wet smoke and dry smoke?
Brice Mitchell
Lacona, Ia
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Mike S.; KCBS MCBJ &,BBQ-Brethren RJ
If your question is weather judges can tell if you use dry or moist heat, that is a difficult question to answer, since judges are not sure what method was used. In theory, more moisture the better the smoke penetration and adhesion, but an experience cook would know the right application in either method. Also I don't believe in the theory of moist heat equals moist meat.
As far as appearance that is also difficult to answer, since almost everyone uses sauces..
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Doug KCBS Master CBJ / CTC
This is a difficult question. I might be able to tell the difference as with moist heat you shouldn't get as much bark as with dry heat due to the extra moisture. But a lot of teams will wrap their meat in foil once it hits a certain time/temperature/color/cooking point/etc. and add some liquid so that the meat will braise to make it tender and moist. This can also affect the bark. Once cooking is done some will place their meat, still in foil, in a cooler or cambro. Others will take it out of the foil, sauce it, and put it back on the smoker. And I'm sure there are many, many other variations out there.
Can a judge tell when the box reaches them. Maybe 50% of the time I could. The question you should ask yourself is, "does my cooking method produce, moist, tender, juicy meat." That is the main thing I am looking for when I judge.
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Ed KCBS MCBJ
Wet Smoke/Dry Smoke?
What the hell is that? Smoke is smoke... I think
Are you wondering if having water in your cooker or not makes your meat more moist or not?
I'd say absolutley not. The moisture in your meat is from rendered fat. If you don't cook it long enough there will not be much moisture in your meat. If you cook the hell out of it, there will not be much moisture in your meat.
If you cook your meat to the perfect temperature it will be perfectly moist and will score well, and Ray will be putting a water pan in his cooker.
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Dick-MCBJ/CTC
Brice, If you are reffering to a cooker that has a large pan of water that is heated thereby basicly steaming the meat, my answer is yes,yes and yes. I can very definately taste the difference with pork. It will taste washed out and have little flavor. I am not reffering to a cooker that has a smaller water pan only to the cookers that the water pan almost completely covers the heat source. We have some whole hog cookers who also use this method and the entire hog lacks flavor. I believe the water prevents the natural wood smoke and flavor from reaching the meat. I also think many judges have also had "water steamed" pork and score it down on taste without knowing why it lacked taste.