Discussion in 'Lamb' started by jonathan, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. jonathan

    jonathan Fire Starter

    I lived in the Middle East a while growing up. No matter where you go, Lebanon, Turkey, Israel, Egypt, Yemen there is some form of schawarma.
    In most places its some form of lamb or beef or combo marinated in the family's personal spice/curry, and then prepped as thin disks of meat layered on a vertical spit, between periodic layers of fat to keep it lubricated, then grilled as a vertical rotisserie.

    You'd serve thin sliced bits on a pita with some tahina (sesami sauce), some pickled vegetables or other, and a little simple salad mixture of parsley, cucumber, tomato and lemon juice.

    Historically you would use wood fires to cook it, but these days its gas rotisseries. I'm considering replicating it by making up a nice middle eastern style curry, brining/injecting a leg of lamb, smoking it up to 140, then tossing it on a grill to toast it and cut as we go.

    For the brine/marinade, I'm thinking of using:

    cumin seed, coriander seed, cinnamon, clove, a bit of cayenne, fresh garlic, vinegar or lemon juice, black pepper, salt, and undecided about cardamom, turmeric and allspice and of course water.

    Anyone think that this would be too 'granular' to inject? I'm still new to injection and not sure if you want to inject something that has undissolved spices.

    So any opinions? I'll probably try it in the next week and if I like it, tune it a bit and bring version 2 along with some other things to a friend's Superbowl party.
  2. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I'd smoke it! As far as injection...why? Mop it..same thing if I understand the construction of it correctly.
  3. jonathan

    jonathan Fire Starter

    Well, the way they prepare is slice thin and have the thin slices marinating, so the spices get deep into the meat. If I take a whole leg of lamb, only way to really get as deep penetration of the spices is let it sit for days or inject and still let it marinate probably for 24 hours, because the cut of meat is much thicker.

    Its why a meat like lamb with a stronger taste is good as its got to be able to keep up with the curry spices and the wood smoke.
  4. richtee

    richtee Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Ahhh I misunderstood... grind yourspices in a coffee grinder first, make the injection from that. If that's not enough, simmer ground spices in water a short time, kill the heat and in a few min, add some vodka <or BOURBON> to dissolve the non water soluable components.. strain and inject.
  5. jonathan

    jonathan Fire Starter

    So you don't think that if I grind the spices fine I'll have an issue? I suspect it won't, but don't want to end up with a grainy feeling meat :p
  6. starsfaninco

    starsfaninco Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I remember well being in Dubaii and having schwarmas (sp?). We called them the fajita's of the middle east. We hit Dubaii 3 times on that cruise and every time about 10000 drunk sailors (yes we found alcohol, surprisingly enough right above an ice rink, really bad combo) would fund a great place eat drink and be merry.

    As for grinding the spices, I think they'll mix very well with the meat and shouldn't be grainy at all.

  7. jonathan

    jonathan Fire Starter

    Schawarma is undoubtedly my favorite street meat. I'll eat most anything to try, and have gotten unnamed meats in the strangest places around the world (used to have to travel stupid amounts for work, which is not very exciting after the first trip or few), but I just adore schawarma.

    When I'm in NY, take the extra 1 hour drive to Coney Island blvd to go to Olympic Pita for Schawarma (an Israeli joint), and when in Europe, in places with Turkish populations, I pretty much live in their schawarma joints.

    Okay. So advice gotten. I'll do this later in the week and provide q-view and report
  8. dragonslayer

    dragonslayer Fire Starter

    I was at olympic last week. I love that place!!!!
  9. shooterrick

    shooterrick Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Believe it or not Shwarma is very popular here in Louisiana. Many places to get it. One place not far from the office is a Gas Station with a side buisness of Shwarma and the like. Inject if you like but grind the spice fine in a coffee grinder as Rich mentioned. I inject all the time and even with elcheapo cajun injector if fine ground it will work. Ya just need a carrier like apple juice or broth ect.
  10. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Man this shwarma sound yummuy but we love lamb here and another way to make it is always welcomed. I would grind it like rick and rich said in a coffee grinder and then mix it with something like apple juice or something else and then inject it. I would like to see some Q of this stuff cooked but it sounds good.[​IMG]
  11. hoser

    hoser Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

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