Picnic shoulder into a ham..... 9/13 update MONEY !!!!

Discussion in 'Pork' started by daveomak, Sep 5, 2015.

  1. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Well I thought I bought a shoulder butt.... STUPID me... was a picnic..... Sooooo that did away with the country boneless ribs...

    Bride says, "Smoke it"... I says, "It ain't cured".... Bride says, "Cure it and make ham"... I says, "That means I gots to inject it and all that stuff"... Well, she reminds me I do have 2 injecting needles.... I actually have 3 so........ Here's what I did....

    Skinned the picnic... weighed it at 4,000 grams... I'll do a 5% injection because it was already "enhanced"....

    200 grams water....
    salt... 60 grams...because I didn't know how much salt was in the pump....
    sugar.... 20 grams..... same reason....
    Ames Phos.... 8 grams.. 0.2%
    Cure #1... 10 grams... 156 Ppm nitrite....


    I used the syringe that comes with Cajun Injector injectable sauces like you would use on wings.... marked out ~10 ml on the syringe barrel for a guesstimate of what I was doing...
    First... injected along the bone and joints as best I could... I'm trying to prevent bone sour.. then injected the remaining meat.... I did all this on a 1/4 sheet pan to collect the excess liquid that leaked out.... pumped all 200 mls into the picnic.... placed the picnic in a gallon zip bag and dumped the excess liquid in it also.....
    The injections were between 5 and 10 mls each.... approximately 30 injections.... now all the cure, salt and sugar is in the meat.... I don't have to wonder if it has made it to the bone... I'm turning the bag over in the AM and PM to make sure this works uniformly... should take 4 days but I'm gonna give it six.... (Actually ended up being 7, which I'm not changing because the ham was AWESOME)

     
    Last edited: Nov 1, 2015
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  2. c farmer

    c farmer Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I have been wanting to do this.

    Will be watching.
     
  3. b-one

    b-one Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looks like fun can't wait for results!:drool
     
  4. disco

    disco Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    This sounds great. I'm in.

    Disco
     
  5. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Not much juice leaked out... I'm surprised because it was pumped... My attempt at tying it up to hang.. I should get netting if this works....

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    Hanging the picnic in the smoker...... SMOKE... Pittmasters Choice pellets from Todd.... Good smoke flavor.....
    Start smoking at ~130 ish to dry the surface to form a pellicle... later will kick it up to 180 ish gradually....
    (after the smoke application was done, CLOSE the exhaust to about 5% open... turn the smoker into an oven.. that eliminates the stall... nothing evaporating to cool the meat.. and final smoker temp about 205-210 to get the meat to 165)

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    Lighting... let the flame burn for awhile then blow it out so it smolders... AMNPS in the Mail Box mod....

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    BB later.... gonna smoke this to 154 to 160 Deg. F..... Don't know why... just because.... (Bride said, "Cook to 165")
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2015
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  6. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    6 hours of smoke.... a few more to go....... The AMNPS does a fantastic job of applying even, creosote free smoke... The Pitmasters choice pellets give a smooth, even, not ever bitter flavor... The MB mod provides for consistent smoking... no up or downs...


     
  7. b-one

    b-one Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    :drool Looking Awesome!
     
  8. c farmer

    c farmer Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Nice. Its gonna be great
     
  9. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    23 hours and it's done.... final cooking temp 200 deg. F to get the ham to 165... Brides request on the final temp....
    Now it's resting under foil.... Later today we will cut into it for a taste test and supper.....

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  10. Looking great, can't wait to see the pics of the cuts!
     
  11. danmcg

    danmcg Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    That looks Perfect Dave! I still need to do your mailbox mod to my smoker.
     
  12. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Great looking ham. Bet it's going to be tasty!
     
  13. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    It looks as if I injected it pretty good..... Meat is pink everywhere... down in the joint... along the bone... out to the edges of the meat...

    It took minimal cure, salt and sugar... minimal room in the reefer and I'm gonna say minimum amount of time to cure because the cure had not much farther than an inch or so to travel....

    Bride says, "It the moistest ham she's ever had. Better than store bought." That's what I think also....

    Soooooooo, this is my new go to ham... takes about 8 days from start to finish.... I'm not gonna cut down on the 7 days I had it in the refer under cure etc..... It's too good to mess with this recipe.....

    Honestly.... it's perfect as near as I can tell.... for us anyway..... It probably could use some additional spices in the injection just to kick it up a bit, but for traditional ham.... it's really good.....

    The meat just fell off of the bone... The meat segments fell apart... I'm very happy with the results.......


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  14. dirtsailor2003

    dirtsailor2003 Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Nice smoke Dave! POINTS for you!
     
  15. jckdanls 07

    jckdanls 07 Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    Load that man up with points... MM MMM MMMMMMM great job Dave.. may have to try this one...
     
  16. woodcutter

    woodcutter Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Nice looking ham!!
     
  17. waterinholebrew

    waterinholebrew Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Very nice Dave, tasty lookin smoke for sure ! Thumbs Up

    :beercheer:
     
  18. c farmer

    c farmer Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Great job. Looks great.

    Now it's my turn.
     
  19. foamheart

    foamheart Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Amphos¬† [​IMG]

    You da'man!!

    I bet you have Velcro shoelaces......ROFLMAO!

    Bet there is beans in your house this week too!
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2015
  20. A question from a future picnic ham maker... when injecting by the bone do you push the needle right to the bone or just into an approximate area?
     

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