Opinions needed on a grinder

Discussion in 'Sausage' started by cabin fever, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. cabin fever

    cabin fever Smoke Blower

    I just came across this electric meat grinder on eBay and was wondering if anyone has any experience with this model? It's 3000 watts with a grizzly 3.4 HP and the description notes that it can grind up to 280 pounds of meat per hour on the high speed setting. The stats are impressive to say the least, but I can't find any information on this grinder at all.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPER-GRINDER-3...all_Kitchen_Appliances_US&hash=item3a5f647756
     
  2. bmudd14474

    bmudd14474 Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    how much sausage do you want to do at a time?
     
  3. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    Harbor Freight Tools has a decent grinder for 40 or 50$ if you have one near you?

    Mine has seen a lot of action and still goin
     
  4. Something doesn't add up. 3.4 hp I doubt it probably 3/4 hp.

    3000w Cant mean 3000 watts at that power you would draw 25 amps! most house hold 120v circuts are only 15 amps.

    There seems to be a lot of deceptive advertizing here. 
     
  5. cabin fever

    cabin fever Smoke Blower

    "Something doesn't add up. 3.4 hp I doubt it probably 3/4 hp.

    3000w Cant mean 3000 watts at that power you would draw 25 amps! most house hold 120v circuts are only 15 amps.

    There seems to be a lot of deceptive advertizing here."

    That's what I was thinking and just wanted to make sure. I'm currently using an old grinder I got from Wal-Mart that does maybe 1 pound of meat every 5 minutes. I'm just looking for an affordable grinder with a good amount of power that grinds fairly quickly.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2010
  6. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I grind up more than I'm need, so I don't have to make the same mess again.  Freeze the extra and use it to make 10# batches in the future.  I just made 70# of Italian and breakfast sausage.

    Todd
     
  7. cabin fever

    cabin fever Smoke Blower

    I'm having a hard time finding grinders that come with a sausage stuffing plate (bean-shaped plate). Is this something you usually have to buy separately?
     
  8. I agree with Big-Guy.  There is something very fishy about the grinder.  I don't think their description could possibly be accurate.

    Some grinders do come with stuffing plates.  I know that a few of the grinders that our company sells come with a "stuffing star" attachment which functions the same as a stuffing plate (see this link and the Weston Grinders).

    An alternative would be to buy something such as a "kidney" plate.  A kidney plate is simply a grinder plate with several very large holes, this is probably what you are referring to as a "bean-shaped plate). (see image below)  You can find kidney plates at this link towards the bottom of the first page and on the second page.

    Hopefully this gives you some information to go off of.  If you have any other questions, I'd be more than happy to help in any way I can.

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  9. IMHO grinders are for grinding not stuffing sausage, get a real stuffer. You can stuff with a grinder but it is a very frustrating chore, especially if you want to use smaller cases or pack large cases.  Norther tool has a grinder on for $100 and a 5 Lb. stuffer for the same price. They would be fine for the ocassional sausage maker. If you make large batches. I would look at the cabela's grinder of 3/4 to 1 hp size #22 or #32 sized grinder. and opt ofr a larger  stuffer.
     
  10. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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    now you can stuff with a grinder and allot of folks try them for the first couple times that you make sausage. That way you don't go out and spend alot of money to find out that you don't like the product. So I would recommand if you don't have the kidney shaped plate then go look at a gander mtn or academy or maybe a bass pro shop they usually have stuff like that or you can go to Sausagemaker.com they have everything. If you like it I would then recommand going to northern tools also and get the stuffer. It will make your life alot easier when making sausage.
     
  11. beer-b-q

    beer-b-q Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I would be very Leary of it...  Also the grinding plates it shows are not the universal style the interchange with the more popular units so you may find it hard to get additional plates.
     
  12. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit


    i agree after looking again, there is no way thats a 3000 watt grinder, looks very cheaply made and its gonna be around a hundred, get the Northern tool grinder its way better for that price
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2010
  13. bmudd14474

    bmudd14474 Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I know that alot of the ones on Ebay they like to fudge the numbers on them. I had a 99.00 one from Cabela's that worked good for 5-15lbs at a time. I started puting 25-50 lbs thru it and burnt it up. They took it back and I upgraded to their 1/2 hp commercial grinder. It will do 360lbs a hour. Its been great.
     
  14. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    My cabelas 1 hp grinder weighs 58 lbs. The cabelas 3/4 hp weighs 40 lbs. the grinder you are interested in weighs 15lbs.and comes with extra blads. I dont know what a blad is but mine came with blades. The sellers feedback looks like it has been fabricated. The holidays are around the corner. Ask everyone who is going to give you gifts for visa gift cards you can use anywhere and use them to help buy you a quality grinder.. 
     
  15. cabin fever

    cabin fever Smoke Blower

    Thanks for the input everyone. I decided to go the "cheap and safe" route since this is my first real entry into the world of sausage making. I picked up a generic 250 watt meat grinder at Harbor Freight earlier today for $60.00 that came with three sausage stuffing attachments, two grinding plates and one stuffing plate. Harbor Freight has a great return policy so if I'm not happy with anything I can just take it back for a full refund no questions asked. I figured that kind of made this a win-win situation.

    I also grabbed a 9 pound pork butt from Wegmans that I went ahead and cut into chunks for an early morning grind. Thankfully the fine 3/16" plate from my old grinder fits this model because it only came with large and medium plates. Now onto actually stuffing the sausage. The instructions aren't really that clear on how to assemble the stuffing attachment so do I still need to use the cutting blade with the stuffing plate or just use the stuffing plate alone with the stuffing tube?
     
  16. You can simply use the stuffing plate with the stuffing tube.  There is no need for the cutting blade if you are simply stuffing.
     
  17. cabin fever

    cabin fever Smoke Blower

     
  18. bmudd14474

    bmudd14474 Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I know several folks have started with that model and have been happy. Congrats.
     
  19. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    Yes i started and am still going with that model[​IMG] you will want to end up getting a dedicated stuffer, stuffing with any grinder is slow and no fun
     
  20. cabin fever

    cabin fever Smoke Blower

    Well folks, they say you get what you pay for. I took the chopped up pork butt directly from the fridge and started to grind through the medium plate and almost right away it got stopped up and wouldn't budge an inch. I double checked to make sure I had everything hooked up correctly and it was so I cleaned the grinder out and tried for a second time with the coarse plate. Unfortunately, I got the same result. For whatever reason the feed screw would not grab the meat and pull it through. The meat was nice and cold so I know it wasn't a creamy fat issue.

    I had to borrow my mother's Kitchen Aid with grinder attachment to do the job and it worked like a champ. I just wish they made a fine grinding plate for the Kitchen Aid, but as of right now they don't. Anyway, I'm gonna freeze what I grinded today and go ahead and order a 5 pound sausage stuffer. While I didn't try the stuffer attachment, I could see what a pain it would be over using a real stuffer. As for now I'm gonna return the grinder for a refund and hang onto the Kitchen Aid for the time being. I may have lost this battle, but the sausage war will continue!   [​IMG]
     

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