Not so pullable pulled pork

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  1. dougbennett

    dougbennett Smoke Blower

    So I made pulled pork for the millionth time, following the Basic Pulled Pork instructions like I always do (smoke to 160, foil and finish to 190-200), then into the cooler for 75 minutes.

    But, for some reason, it was hard to pull so I ended up having to chop it.

    Anyone ever had this happen to them? The meat was flavorful enough and had a good smoke ring, but it just wouldn't pull.
     
  2. pignit

    pignit Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I've never had a problem with pulling pork although some cuts are not as tender as others. The one thing I've found in all this smokin is that each cut of meat is going to be a little different and some cuts of meat can be very different. You can increase your chances of getting good cuts of meat by staying with a brand... butcher... store that you like but even then you will get meats that vary. Give another one a shot and see if you have the same results. If you do... then you may have a bad therm giving you a false reading and the meat may not be at the temp it says it is. I don't think your hurting anything when you let a butt stay in the heat to even 210 and there are some that probably need it.
     
  3. nater3

    nater3 Fire Starter

    I always run mine up to 205 degrees in the foil and have never had a problem. I would let yours go just a bit longer. Especially if you are stopping at the lower end of the range you mentioned.
     
  4. ronp

    ronp Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Did you foil with liquid at 160'? That would almost guarantee easy pulling and take it to 200' 210.
     
  5. irishteabear

    irishteabear Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Every once in a while you will come across a butt that won't cooperate. Taking it to a higher temp might help but it could also make no difference. Remember, each piece of meat is different.
     
  6. fishawn

    fishawn Smoking Fanatic

    As previously noted, I also go to 205* and foil with liquid. Never had a "tough one" yet.
     
  7. elde

    elde Smoke Blower

    Foil with liquid?
     
  8. bman62526

    bman62526 Smoking Fanatic

    When you go to foil it...you put a little liquid inside the foil WITH the meat...the technique is called "braising".

    For what it's worth...I agree with everyone here that if you get the internal temp to 200 or 205, instead of just 190-195, that can make a huge difference.
     
  9. willkat98

    willkat98 Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    I believe Ron might mean what I do, which is while wrapping up I spritz it down real good with whatever I'm spraying with (apple juice, cherry juicebox juice, etc)

    But as far as needing to chop Doug, could you have had a picnic shoulder, and not a full butt shoulder?

    I know picnics (further down away from the shoulder, leading to the hock) have a few muscles in there that are always unpullable, and need to be chopped.

    I pull them out (they are close to the bone) as I pull, then chop those tendons at the end.
     
  10. eaglewing

    eaglewing Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Some say 225 - 250 even...I have to at least agree with everyone here that 160* was probably too low...
     
  11. tasunkawitko

    tasunkawitko Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    what were the cooking temps and times?
     
  12. 250! Wow! I guess you don't like em medium rare eh?
     
  13. shooterrick

    shooterrick Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I have never had a butt not pull but I suppose eventually I will get that odd piece of meat that causes me problems. If you are sure you wrapped at 160 and rested for at least 45 min. after 200 plus then it could be an anomally. YOu can always check your therms with boiling water rather than another piece of meat. Good Luck and no worries.
     
  14. eaglewing

    eaglewing Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    A quote from the "Competition BBQ Secrets
    A book on how to “slow smoke” ribs, chicken, pork butt, and beef brisket
    written by the Chatham Artillery BBQ Team
    Version 4.4

    I don't go to 250 but I don't stay as low as 160 either... 200 - 225 is my FAV
     
  15. tasunkawitko

    tasunkawitko Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    guys - i think one of you is talking about meat temp and the other is talking about smoker temp.[​IMG]

    as for me, i like smoking around 240 and don't mind it as high as 250; if it goes down to 230, it's time to open an inlet or add some fuel or something.
     
  16. eaglewing

    eaglewing Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    AHHH...RGR THAT sorry my bad I guess

    YES, I was talking smoke temps
     
  17. deltadude

    deltadude Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Doug you fail to mention:
    • What temp were you smoking at?
    • What was your method of smoking? (Wood/Charcoal/Electric/kitchen oven)
    • Most important what was the weight of the original pork shoulder/butt and how long did you smoke it for?

    For example:
    Monday I did a 8.5lb in electric MES for 11hrs 30 minutes at smoking at 230, the meat was injected with about 1 1/2 cups of liquid, and stopped cooking when meat temp at 195-200F. I left it in the MES at 165 for about 2 hours till serving time, the Meat temp was still 190. (MES door not opened from start to finish, good bark).
     
  18. mavrick813

    mavrick813 Smoke Blower

    I put in 1/4c of liquid when i foil. 1/8 Jack and 1/8 of Apple cider Vin. Falls apart every time.
     
  19. eaglewing

    eaglewing Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    An 1/8 of Jack gets me a little loosened up as well... [​IMG]
     
  20. dougbennett

    dougbennett Smoke Blower

     

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