No Pull Back

Discussion in 'Pork' started by rp ribking, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. rp ribking

    rp ribking Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Has anyone had this problem: spareribs that are done but the pork has not pulled away from the end of the bones. I normally have them pull away 3/4" or more from the edge. This is the 2nd time I have had this happen. The pig was slaughterd 10 days before I smoked them. Any ideas????????????? I smoked on a WSM for 6 hours.

    Thanks RP
  2. denver dave

    denver dave Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    There was a recent discussion on this subject. It seems some folks actually look for ribs that do not bull back. Myself, Mine always pull back. There should be someone along shortly that may be able to explain this.
  3. fire it up

    fire it up Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    It happens and is desired by some folks.
    Personally I use pullback as a sign of when they are done and have gotten used to it that way.
    Someone recently remarked that having pullback on your ribs comes from the ribs not being cut right or too high cooking heat but yet the last set of spares I did had almost no pullback at all and were the same regular ones I get from the grocery stores AND I cooked them at 300 the entire time so my guess is that it just sometimes happens.
  4. the dude abides

    the dude abides Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I'd guess it was the way they were cut by the butcher. That or you were cooking with a very low temp and the meat didn't shrink up.
  5. justsmoke2

    justsmoke2 Smoking Fanatic

    or it has something to do with the quality rib you are getting. Less pull back better quality of rib. I am sure BBally will respond here shortly. Since his response I now look at ribs a who lot differnetly. If you have been watching the Pit Masters you will notice they have very little pull back and there turns do not have any pull back.
  6. bman62526

    bman62526 Smoking Fanatic

    I don't know if quality is the word I'm looking for...but what I've noticed, is that more pull back means less meat on the ribs. When I buy the best spares and BB's I can find, there is usually less pull back, and more mean on the tops of the slabs. The few times that I DID get more pull back, it seemed the ribs were more dry than what I like, and didn't have as much meat. I don't know if that is just a coincidence - or if I cooked them slightly different.
  7. fire it up

    fire it up Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    You know you might be on to something there.
  8. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I don't recall havng any ribs that didn't have any pull back but if theytasted good and all of that I really wouldn't care if they didnt pull back or not.
  9. rbranstner

    rbranstner Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    It sounds like pull back it pretty much a personal preference kind of thing. I don't care either way as long as the rib is tender, juicy and tastes good I could care less if there is pull back or not.
  10. bbally

    bbally Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    You are correct. "Cover" is what determines pull back. Although one heat may also be a factor. Cover (for me cover is quality as I prefer my $1.99 per pound buying more meat then bone) is most important. Can be from an unfinished animal, or a poor cutting at the slaughter house. But cover is definately the factor I key on the most for preventing bone creep. AKA pull back.

    To many people pay no attention to meat quality and yields. They think $1.99 per pound is good pricing, it may be, but most likely it is not, here is why:

    Cover is important cause in the catering world, prie per pound of yield is everything. People don't eat bones (alright most people) so if you are cooking $1.99 per pound ribs with a 40 percent yield (0.40 pound of meat per pound purchased.) You actually have $4.98 per pound yield.

    Take a look at John Morrell or IBP ribs at $2.50 per pound ribs but with good cover they produce a 65 percent yield. (0.65 pound of meat per pound purchased) You are now producing $3.85 per pound yield.

    While it may not look like the $2.50 per pound is the best deal, knowing yields from different cut shops by watching what happens to the meat you purchase allows a very different calculation. At you own home you would save $3.39 on three pounds of rib meat consumed by knowing what the yields are and selecting the highest yield per pound.

    But for me in Catering. If I am feeding of 400 people, I know I need 200 pounds of meat yield. I spec John Morrell or IBP, so I get to order 310 pounds of ribs to get my 200 pound yield.

    I have $775.00 tied up in rib costs for the feeding.

    A competitor that makes these mistakes either runs out of food (kiss of death in catering) or over orders because they know the low yield but always go for the low price.

    The competitor will have $995.00 tied up in the $1.99 per pound type ribs. And it adds up from there... they also have to prep more racks, use more spices, cut more finished ribs.... etc etc.

    And that is why I have purchased the equipment of four other food service companies at auction for 10 cents on the dollar. They tried to compete thinking it was about low cost food selling for a higher price than purchased. But it is yield that counts and seperates the winners from the also rans!
  11. rp ribking

    rp ribking Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Thanks for all of the info, it really helped, the reason I was a little worried is that I'm the official rib smoker at work and I smoked 12 racks of those ribs for the workers at work. The ribs were IBP select trim $1.59lb.

    By the way everybody thought they were FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. deltadude

    deltadude Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Right on, there nothing more to consider than taste!

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