Newbie can't figure out why the BBQ sauce is NASTY!

Discussion in 'Sauces, Rubs & Marinades' started by brendontw, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    Hey all. I've been trying to get away from store bought BBQ sauces. I did but Jeff's run and sauce recipe. Loving the rub. However, I tried his sauce and another sauce recipe and they were awful. Now, maybe I don't know what "real" BBQ sauce is supposed to taste like, but anything I've had at a BBQ shop or from a store tastes nothing like what I have produced in the pan.

    Both sauces I made here at home have had very similar bad tastes. I did let the sauce simmer like I was supposed to, and did all of the right measurements (except I cut the entire recipe in half due to just trying it out) The sauce when done had an extremely strong scent to it that would singe the nose hairs and water your eyes if you didn't pull away immediately like I did, lol. And the taste was just as bad. Almost tasted like really screwed up ketchup. I will say the ketchup I'm using is a store brand ketchup and is a tad stronger than ketchup like Heinz, but I can't imagine that this minor different would make this sauce taste so bad.

    And neither sauces I made (the other one was quite similar to Jeff's just not as much ketchup) really had that BBQ type of flavor I'm looking for. Maybe some of you guys could enlighten me or tell me where I could possibly be going wrong?
     
  2. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Try the sauce on meat....  It ain't meant to be eaten straight from the jar....  Kinda like perfume... smells like crap in the bottle but on the right lady....... AWESOME....... 
     
  3. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    I could try it man but this stuff was NASTY tasting. I couldn't even muster up the courage to taste it a second time on the tip of my finger.
     
  4. rgacat

    rgacat Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    Did it scorch to the bottom of the pan?

    rga
     
     
  5. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    Yes it did a little bit both times.
     
  6. rgacat

    rgacat Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    That could have been the problem. Not saying for sure. I have made gallons of Jeff's sauce and only one time it was bitter and that was when I let it scorch a little. Nothing beats a good heavy bottom pot thin ones burn to easy.

    Keep stirring.

    rga
     
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2013
  7. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Burnt is noticeable. Sounds to me like you are feeling the bite of the Vinegar. It would help to know where you live, tells us more about what your used to eating, and what Brand of Commercial BBQ Sauce you buy. Most are super sweet, low on vinegar and heat from Chiles and have added Smoke Flavor to make them general purpose...JJ
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2013
  8. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    Thanks guys. It Certainly tasted like vinegar. I'm in OKC. I usually have head country bbq sauce. Even KC Masterpiece sometimes. Both of which taste fine in the tip of my finger. I would like to know what would help me get this flavor. I am willing to try some of the other on meat though too if it will be more enjoyable that way.
     
  9. cliffcarter

    cliffcarter Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    IMHO if it tasted like screwed up ketchup you screwed up in measuring one or more of the ingredients, in this case probably the ketchup.
     
  10. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    Definitely got the measurements correct. I was especially careful the second time.
     
  11. kathrynn

    kathrynn Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    If it scorches...when can happen fast if you are not watching it...it does not taste as good.  What you may not like is the molasses...it can be strong.  Make sure you get a mild one.  Brer's brand can be very strong.  Get a non-sulfured store brand and see if that helps too.

    My 2 cents.
     
  12. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Brendon...Give these recipes a shot. They go together and the final result is similar to KC Masterpiece...JJ

    Mild Bubba Q Rub

    1/2C Sugar in the Raw (Turbinado)

    2T Sweet Paprika (Hungarian)

    1T Kosher Salt

    1T Chili Powder (contains some Cumin and Oregano) Ancho Chile is same without cumin, oregano etc.

    1T Granulated Garlic

    1T Granulated Onion

    1tsp Black Pepper, more if you like

    1/2tsp Grnd Allspice

    Cayenne or Chipotle Pwd to taste, start with 1/2tsp and go from there.

    KC Bubba Q Juice

    2C Ketchup

    1/2C Brown Mustard (Gulden's)

    1/4C Apple Cider Vinegar

    1/2C Molasses

    2C Dark Brn Sugar

    1T Tomato Paste

    1T Mild Rub

    1-2tsp Liquid Smoke

    1tsp Worcestershire Sauce

    Combine all and warm over low heat just until it starts to bubble. Simmer about 5 minutes, stirring very frequently, to combine flavors and to thicken slightly.

    Use or pour into a sterile jar and refrigerate for up to 4 weeks.

    Makes 3 1/2 Cups.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2013
  13. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    Thanks! What do I use for the liquid in recipe one?
     
  14. brendontw

    brendontw Newbie

    Oh, nevermind, the first one is just the rub.
     
  15. Thanks for the recipe Chef, KC is my favorite off the shelf sauce. Seems like the only BBQ sauce on sale any more is Kraft, and it terrible.
     
  16. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    No Problem Guys...It is not exactly like KC but pretty close and the family, big Masterpiece fans, like it. If it is a bit too sweet for anybodies taste add some more Vinegar. You can bump the Heat with Cayenne, Chipotle or your fav Hot Sauce...JJ
     
  17. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Brendon, That Rub is great on any meat. It's my goto for Pork and for Chicken I add 1tsp of Poultry Seasoning.

    These are two recipes I have used on Beef with success. First has a very South Western/ Texas flavor. The second is my Go To for anything Beef...JJ

    Run for the Border Rub

    2T Kosher Salt

    2T Ancho Chile Powder

    1T Chipotle Powder

    1T Oregano, Mexican is preferred 

    1T Gran Garlic

    1T Gran Onion

    1T Black Pepper

    1T Cayenne

    1-2tsp Gnd Cumin

    1tsp Cocoa Powder

    1/2tsp Cinnamon

    Optional:

    1T Tomato Powder

    1/2C Turbinado Sugar (Sugar in the Raw)

    Makes 3/4 to 1Cup Rub.

    This stuff is HOT and full flavored with touch of Smokiness. Feel free to adjust the heat to your taste by playing with the amount of Chipotle and Cayenne Powder. All the ingredients except maybe the Tomato Powder is available at the Grocery Store. This stuff will also Kick Butt as the seasoning in a batch of Chili. 

    Bubba Beef Rub

    2T Turbinado Sugar

    2T Kosher Salt

    2T Black Peppercorns

    1T Coriander Seed

    1T Dry Minced Onion

    1T Dry Minced Garlic

    1tsp Allspice Berries

    1tsp Mustard Seed

    1tsp Dry Thyme Leaves

    3 Bay Leaves, crumbled

    1tsp Juniper Berries 

    Add Cayenne if heat is desired.

    All Spices are Whole and are toasted in a dry pan over Medium heat until fragrant. The Garlic and Onion do not need to be toasted.

    Let the Spices cool then Grind in a cheapo Coffee Grinder until slightly less than Coarse. Mix with the Salt and Sugar. Store in an air tight container. Makes about a Half cup.
     

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