New MES Bluetooth Digital smoker

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by parrot-head, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. dr k

    dr k Master of the Pit

    Looking at TBS smoke outside in the dark is different than looking at TBS from the inside of your house, with the light on, into the dark (it had to be smoking if it burst into flames with a small flame put to it.)  You need a deflector for your model like bear has for the 40" Gen 1 for temp stability with his coasting/adjusting method, which is without out a doubt the best MES advice other than how to keep an AMNPS going.  The size and model are very important.  It's all about the temp sensor and deflecting heat (not holding heat around the heating element to over heat that area.)  This is my deflector for the 40" Gen 1.  I am keeping the heat from go up the wall in the area of the sensor and out the top vent. I want the heat to go anywhere else ( to the middle and up all other walls.)  I made it longer and cut it back from the middle as I tested it during each smoke on the second rack from the top.  The two boil tested therms, the controller therm and the unused mes meat therm in the holder are within 2 degrees at my 225*F set temp.  They are < 10*F either way on cycling to average the 225*F.  You may need a 2" by 6" piece depending on the location of your heat sensor, vent and heating element.  If Bear is deflecting heat and no one else is, then everyone has the perfect MES that no one has started a thread on yet LOL.

    I have cut the template back 1.5 inches on both sides from the middle of the water pan in this pic to get the results above.


    -Kurt
     
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  3. daricksta

    daricksta Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I keep all the pellets I've received from Todd in the plastic bags in which they were shipped and inside my uninsulated garage. I'm using pellets I got 1-2 years ago with absolutely no problems at all. Yes, I don't live where there's high humidity like some of you but it does get very humid and damp in Washington state during the winter. Maybe I'm lucky but everything--my MES, AMNPS, and wood pellets are work the way they're supposed to every time I use them without doing anything special.
     
  4. mori55

    mori55 Fire Starter

    Don't you think we analyze things to much instead of doing the obvious thing ? Like really getting the AMNPS going really good before putting it in ? I let mine burn a good 20 min before putting in the smoker.
    I'm not going to drive myself nuts worrying about temp swings. I'm going to set it and forget it. Every forum I subscribe to , wether it's the Harley or Rc drone forum etc , have members who drive themselves crazy worrying over every little detail.
     
  5. If it takes you 2 1/2 hours to get your smoker heated up before you put the meat in, put your AMNPS loaded with pellets in when you first start the MES up.  Pellets with be dry and warmed up read to light.  Problem solved. I agree with MORI55, there is more to worry about in life that temp swings.  I don't worry about it and I've not had anyone complain about my Q. 
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2015
  6. I assume that for an accurate temp reading inside the MES 2.5 Bluetooth model, you don't rely on what the Bluetooth readout says, but place a probe such as the Maverick 732-733 on the shelf where the meat is cooking? There is the built-in meat probe with one temp reading (usually in the meat), and I imagine the smoker temp is picked up down the bottom at the heat assembly, which would obviously be a higher temp reading then on the rack than where the meat is cooking..
    Dennis
     
  7. daricksta

    daricksta Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I agree with you. I consider myself a smoking minimalist but I'm not quite a set it and forget it guy. I'll adjust my controller temp up or down based on the the ET-733 is telling me. If my set point was to be 235° but the smoker temp is staying at around 250° or 225° then I adjust it accordingly. Once I'm 2-3 hours into the smoke the temp stabilizes and it is set it and forget it until the meat reaches its finish temp.
     
  8. dr k

    dr k Master of the Pit

    Short cycles for airflow. When you start up the MES and you set it between 100*F to 275*F to preheat (and you want to cook at 225*F) when the MAV hits 225*F and your MES shows 175*F punch in 175*F on the controller so the MES heating element shuts off.  For this cycle the 175*F setting on the MES = 225*F real temp on the MAV.  It'll coast up maybe 15*F but when it cools and the MAV shows 225*F and the controller shows, lets say 172*F set the controller to 167* (5 degrees lower) so the MAV goes to 220*F before kicking on the heating element.  Keep making baby step adjustments till you know what to set your MES on start ups.

    -Kurt
     
  9. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    That's close.

    Bear
     
  10. dr k

    dr k Master of the Pit

    I usually anticipate farther ahead so it coasts to the MAV target temp then adjust the controller accordingly.

    -Kurt
     
  11. dr k

    dr k Master of the Pit

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  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Exactly!!   That's the best way.

    Bear
     
  13. Long time no post but since my Gen 2 gave up yesterday during a brisket smoke, I am in the emergency need for a new smoker.

    My Gen 2 worked great for me and had untold amounts of smoking sessions so I am happy with it's 3 year life.

    I see Gen 2.5 is out and I really like the improvements especially the oval tray and vent on top. I found there are 2 versions of the 30"

    20072115 and 20073215

    The 20072115 is a 4 rack version and the 20073215 is the 6 rack version.

    I just ordered the 20072315 from BassPro and it will be in my hands Friday. Cost on the 20072315 is $329 which to me is a better value then the 4 rack unit.

    Smoking some ribs this weekend!!

    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2015
  14. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    Has anyone done sausages in their new MES BT?  Do you need temps below the 100F min spec?
     
  15. The 6 rack is the 40 in one I think.
    Dennis
     
  16. brickguy221

    brickguy221 Smoking Fanatic

    I don't believe you will get a 40" Bluetooth at Bass Pro Shops for $329. The description size is for a 30". Picture looks like 30" also.so I am guessing at that price, it is a 30", but I could be wrong there. Hey, I make a lot of mistakes at 78 ,,, [​IMG]  
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2015
  17. I am pretty sure it is a 30" but new design 6 rack version. I do not need a 40" and with 6 racks in the 30" it adds 300 square inches of smoking area which is cool.
     
  18. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Looks like the one Bass Pro has for $329 is a 30", and their 40" is $429.

    Bear
     
  19. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    The Cabelas one is no longer on sale otherwise I would point you in that direction. 
     

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