My Smoke Stinks!

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by beuler, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    Ok..I cant be the only one with this issue.

    When i add chips , any flavor, any size, dry not wet.., the smoke fires up white and strong. I have the retro kit on my MES 40 unit, but it seems the element is so hot , it just burns chips right now. I have used a full tray to 2 pieces and it has no nice aroma. My boss brought in pork from some small infrared smoker and it tasted awesome...i just get this meat that tastes like im licking the inside of a briquette.

    HELP
     
  2. little smokey

    little smokey Smoking Fanatic

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  3. chef willie

    chef willie Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Good advice above.....easy to use, used & recommended by many here and numerous flavors to choose from.
     
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  4. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Chips in the mes burn too hot and too fast. Plus chips you buy tend to be dried out flavorless tinder. I went to small chunks and couldn't believe the difference in flavor. A couple small chunks will last you a couple hours or better and give you plenty of nice thin smoke.
     
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  5. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    Thanks all! Im going to try some chunks i bought and see how that works. If not, i will have to go to the pellets. Just not sure about pellets...are they real? LOL or like a processed wood? Just cant believe this awesome smoker cant except normal chips or sawdust without burning up.

    Thanks, Joe
     
  6. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    Chunks should get you there.  Pellets burn even faster than chips in the mes.
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2013
  7. trikefreak

    trikefreak Smoke Blower

    I don't know about the amazn and pellets in the MES. I can't seem to keep my going. I'm not using liquids, put foil on the shelf above the pellets. Still have to keep lighting it. Maybe there is difference in pellets? I started last week with some from local grocery store. Then I bought a 20# bag of pure apple off Amazon. Maybe there is a difference between pellets used in a proper smoker, and those needed for the amazn?
     
  8. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    If you have the gen2 mes with the right side exhaust vent the air flow is so restricted that its very hard to keep the AMAZN going. And you have to let those pellets burn for quite some time before loading them in the smoker. I actually took out the stock exhaust vent and inserted a depot / lowes adjustable elbow that fits exactly into the opening. Pull the chip loader out a couple inches and airflow is much better. More flavorful smoke and not as much overshoot of the set temp.
     
  9. trikefreak

    trikefreak Smoke Blower

    So, the amazn Doesn't work with the new MES, without modifications? Wish I would have read that before going on a wild goose chase........
     
  10. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    That's not what I said, trike. I said it can be difficult. If you get the pellets going real good before loading them into the smoker, open the vent all the way, and pull the loader out a few inches you may be ok. But as I said earlier, small chunks work great in the mes. Also, if you're not comfortable with the elbow vent, dremel out the opening of the stock vent to double the exhaust opening and leave open all the way all the time. It needs flow anyway to avoid the smoke from hanging around the chamber for too long.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2013
  11. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    OK...I tried a chunk in my MES and it still just isn't producing the flavor I expect...so I just ordered the Amazn unit with 3 different flavors. If this doesn't produce the flavor I want I will be giving away my smoker [​IMG].  Ive seen a few videos on this so , TRIKE, I wouldn't be to worried about it working. I will let you know how it works out. Thank you all!
     
  12. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    What kind of flavor are you expecting???
     
  13. venture

    venture Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Throw away the chips and get an AMNPS.  It will change your smoking life forever!

    Good luck and good smoking.
     
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  14. dockman

    dockman Smoking Fanatic

    Don't give up to quick I have had mine for almost a year and am just now getting a good grip on it. I done the mailbox mod to mine and that was a big help. Then I had a trouble time keeping pellets lite. I watched a video on how to light the AMZNP pellet box and all is good now. Maybe someone can post the video link for you like they did for me?
     
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  15. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    Geerock....I have tried others where you have a nice, light , smooth hickory ( or whatever) taste . Mine all taste the same...like licking the inside of a smoker. ( see post #1)..but all is good.

    Venture, and Dockman...i have one coming..even got the discount!

    Not tooting my own horn, but like my wife also agrees.....after a few years , i do have the " cooking " part down, its just the bad smoke the MES produces...Excited! [​IMG]  
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2013
  16. geerock

    geerock Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    That's simple....you're making a common mistake. You're oversmoking. Thin wispy smoke instead of clouds of white smoke.
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2013
  17. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

  18. superdave

    superdave Smoking Fanatic

    How about dampering?  I've added a sheet metal cap to my wood box to greatly reduce the air flow.  I drilled a few holes to allow just enough air to produce a slow smolder regardless of how hot the burner temp.
     
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  19. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    Noo.... I can put two little chips in there and they just fire up to fast... Now I see why most smoke masters on here don't use the chip tray , instead use an Amazn smoker etc...
    I will find out soon when mine gets here!
     
  20. beuler

    beuler Smoke Blower

    I like this idea
     

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