I went out yesterday to buy a pair of work boots, when I came out of the store I seen a guy across the street with a big huge drum smoker on a trailer and the smoke was rolling. So I went over to check him out, turns out he called his little buisness Smokin Joe. Got to talkin with him asking alot of questions. Said he won compititions at the Ohio State Fair five years in a row and at the Rib Fest as well. So I'm thinking I'm gonna try this guy's ribs. So I go home and give him time to cook and I tell my wife that I want her to go with me and try these ribs, we get over there and long story short we both liked my ribs better...not that I'm a pro or anything close to that...it's just what I've learned here from you guys that makes the good ribs.....however his ribs were very very moist and very tender, not falling off the bone just a small tug. He said he figured his temp was around 350 to 375 and said he cooked them for 1 and a half hours, sounded a little fishy to me but can that be done? Anyway I use the 3-2-1 and the 2-2-1 and I try foil, I try no foil, done the spritz, used apple juice, and I keep my temps as close to 225 230 as i can...I would like to get more moisture, I use a water pan as well....he had cases of ribs, and I'm gonna see where he gets them...maybe I need to get ribs from somewhere else....can ya help me out here....