Masterbuilt Smokers (Bear’s Thoughts & Findings)

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thanks but I already bought the 30" before I started in this forum. Thanks for the pointers I appreciate it very much. I ordered a cold smoker kit for it and It does keep a steady heat down to 100 degrees. Well that what it says 
 
The MES 30" with the cold smoker is a good choice to start with and if you decide to buy something else down the road you will still find yourself using the MES often.
A good remote two probe temp reader is a good investment if your don't already have one. Never trust the temp Gage's on the smoker, they are never right not even on the expensive smokers but the probs on a maverick are accurate, stick one through a potato for a holder, put it on the rack your smoking on for an accurate temp reading. I never probed my food befor I joined the Forms. I just guessed at when it was done sometimes I was right, sometimes not. Now I prob and smoke eveyting to inturnal temp. I just bought an expensive temp pen for checking the inturnal temp of ribs. I haven't over done or under done anything in the past 3 years.

Randy,
 
Thanks Randy for your post, I do have several kinds of meat thermometers, probes that I can leave in the meat while it cooks. I got most of these throughout the years as I was a hobby cook, so I think I'm covered in that area but I'm sure I could always improve. You're right the reason I bought what I did was because I was totally new to smoking meat and I didn't want to spend a lot and then find out it was something I wouldn't enjoy.

I'm hoping that I will enjoy it very much and starting out with the smoker and accessories that I bought I think we'll get me at least past the beginner stage.

Thanks again for your post
 
Hey y'all
I had a thermometer question. I just seasoned my MES 30 gen 2 and double checked the temp with my old Taylor wired thermometer. There's an 11 degree difference. The Taylor is accurate. I checked it in boiling water. Is there any way to calibrate the MES thermometer? 11 degrees is not horrible and it would b easy enough to set the smoker 10 degrees higher when using the unit.
 
Mine is a Gen1, but I don't recall reading mention of how to calibrate their thermometers.

Where is your Taylor measuring? Right next to the Masterbuilt's sensor?

The temperatures in my unit appear to vary somewhat widely, based on location. As a test, I'm currently running it empty, with both my wireless TP-20 probes positioned next to the smoker's sensor. When I've checked, the TP-20 probes have read within 5-6F of what the smoker was showing.

But while cooking, previously, I'd had the TP-20 probes further from the smoker's sensor, and the readings showed larger differences. Just make sure you're reading everything in the same location for this test. 
 
The Taylor was close to the center of the cabinet. From whatvi hear 10 degree is pretty good. Some people report wider discrepancies. I'm doing my first smoke on Friday. I was considering setting the temp to 235.
 
You're going to have to manually adjust the MES temp to coincide with the most accurate measuring device. There's no method available to calibrate the MES probes (at least not one publicly available).
 
You're going to have to manually adjust the MES temp to coincide with the most accurate measuring device. There's no method available to calibrate the MES probes (at least not one publicly available).
Like Candurin said, "You have to manually adjust the MES control to coincide with your accurate device".

The way I do it:

I put my Maverick ET-732 Smoker Probe about 3" from the meat Smoking. This is close enough to measure the temp in the area where the meat is, yet far enough away that the Therm won't be picking up the temp of the Cold Meat.

Then I'll adjust the MES control until my Maverick reads what I want it to read.

Example: I want my Meat to be in a 230° Smoker:

If my MES is 15° lower than my Maverick & my MES reads 230° and my Maverick reads 245°----

I will simply reset my MES to 215°.

This will bring my Maverick down to 230°, which is what I wanted the Temp of the air in the part of the smoker where the meat is.

Different areas of the smoker are at different temps---This is why I put the Maverick probe near the Meat, and I don't worry about what the MES temp is, because the MES is measuring the Temp at the sensor on the back wall of the Smoker.

Bear
 
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Good Grief!
Are folks this picky about their ovens or hair dryers?

OK, I'm sold on why the Masterbuilt Smokers are a favorite here.
As for me, I would want electric no matter which one I chose. Reason being, I have solar power. So as such, I tend to produce more than we use. If I don't use it, my power company pays me the bulk power rate (3 to 4 cents P/kwh) for what they take back to the grid, and sell to my next door neighbors for (33-34 cents per kwh).
Be that as it may, I've got power to burn. So electric is for me.
(If I had plug in propane, I might feel differently... )

One of the myriad of things I use to do for my employer was calibration of temperature devices for controls and alarms.
While ours were industrial, and infinitely adjustable within their designed ranges, ALL have a degree of tolerance.
None are exact. So with certified calibrated heat wells, we would put the probes into an oil filled thermowell and set the controls to their tightest accuracy within their range. (Usually 2 degrees)

So to me, quibbling over non-certified temperature control is a bit much. It can be adjusted with the components on the control board, with proper training and equipment.
In my opinion, Bear has it right. If your meat probe, and your control temperatures aren't to your liking, calibrate your thinking. Or calibrate where you can. :)

If 10 machinists measure the same billet, there will be 10 different measurements.

OK, you may return to counting the grains of salt in your teaspoon. Close is close enough for most of us.
And it certainly is for me... ;)

(That's why my Vernier Caliper is a certified Starrett, and my level is a digital with 0.1 degree capability.) o_O
 
Thanks Sonny,
The original reason for my starting this Thread was to show the results of the testing I did on the MES Gen #1, Gen #2, and Gen #2.5 units, and which I rate the best & which I rate the Worst, and my reasons for rating them the way I do.

I figured if I could get people to avoid the problem units, there will be less problems later on, and less dislike of the Masterbuilt units themselves.

Bear
 
Just got an MES 30 for Xmas and can't wait to break it in. I seasoned it the other day and was very impressed as I live in the Canadian prairies and it was -37 degrees celsius and it had no issues reaching the 275 degrees and holding for the 3 hours they recommend. I looked over at my UDS and thought "See you in the Spring", MES it is for the winter months. Has anyone ever tried using the Bradley Biscuits in a MES? Broken in half maybe and put in through the feeder tube? Just curious because of the variety of flavours available. Loving all the helpful info here.
 
Just got an MES 30 for Xmas and can't wait to break it in. I seasoned it the other day and was very impressed as I live in the Canadian prairies and it was -37 degrees celsius and it had no issues reaching the 275 degrees and holding for the 3 hours they recommend. I looked over at my UDS and thought "See you in the Spring", MES it is for the winter months. Has anyone ever tried using the Bradley Biscuits in a MES? Broken in half maybe and put in through the feeder tube? Just curious because of the variety of flavours available. Loving all the helpful info here.


I tried some similar things when I got my first MES, before Todd invented the Amazing Smokers.
The "AMNPS" is the way to go, if you live at low altitudes.
And the Tube "AMNTS" if you live at high altitudes.

Bear
 
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Just had my MES stop heating during a cook, EAAF or some such code, hard to read. I ran a hair dryer and now it just says 300f. Given there's a snow storm, I can't do much about it now.

Any idea bear? Bad connection I just need to tighten back up?
 
Just had my MES stop heating during a cook, EAAF or some such code, hard to read. I ran a hair dryer and now it just says 300f. Given there's a snow storm, I can't do much about it now.

Any idea bear? Bad connection I just need to tighten back up?


I got this from another Wisconsin member in a search:

There have been several post on this code and I have seen several remedies for this. I personally don't get this code however my parents get it on their MES. I think it's a setup issue when it's really cold out. I have never had the problem even at 0 F. When I setup my smoker I place the water pan in it with hottest tap water I can get. Then close the door. Plug the MES in and power it on. By this time 30 seconds or so have passed and the water has warmed the internal temp of the smoker up to a point where it will not throw the code. Program as usual and you are all set. My parents just called with their smoker throwing the code and I had them put the water tray in then fill with hot water and let it sit 10 minutes just to be sure. They are mow smoking. No need for a hair dryer or hot towel or anything out of the ordinary to get it running, if you just change your sequence a little bit.
 
I got this from another Wisconsin member in a search:

There have been several post on this code and I have seen several remedies for this. I personally don't get this code however my parents get it on their MES. I think it's a setup issue when it's really cold out. I have never had the problem even at 0 F. When I setup my smoker I place the water pan in it with hottest tap water I can get. Then close the door. Plug the MES in and power it on. By this time 30 seconds or so have passed and the water has warmed the internal temp of the smoker up to a point where it will not throw the code. Program as usual and you are all set. My parents just called with their smoker throwing the code and I had them put the water tray in then fill with hot water and let it sit 10 minutes just to be sure. They are mow smoking. No need for a hair dryer or hot towel or anything out of the ordinary to get it running, if you just change your sequence a little bit.

Wasn't to cold to start, I got it heating fine and all, went to do some quick shopping and came back to beep beep beep..

Some googling <which I take with a grain of salt> indicated it could also be a loose connection/corroded wire. If worse comes to worse, I actually got this under a year ago and can likely get it replaced if comes down to it.
 
Hello everyone. Bear, thank you for this thread, your opinions and invaluable advice throughout these forums. Most of all, thank you for your service.

I am an owner of a Gen. 1 40 inch Masterbuilt (20070311). I have had excellent success with it for five years but it is getting to a point where it needs to be replaced. I have been researching and comparing for a couple of weeks now but I think I have narrowed my search to three smokers, including the 0311 model that is $200 more and Masterbuilt tells me has being discontinued.

https://www.samsclub.com/p/mes145s-digital-electric-smoker/prod22810673?xid=plp_product_1_1

https://www.samsclub.com/p/masterbuilt-40in-digital-electric-smoker/prod23220059

https://www.sears.com/masterbuilt-manufacturing-smoker-elec-40in-ss-digital-per/p-SPM8819139511?

Bear, I would very much value your opinion, as I would the opinion of others, on which smoker you would consider the best to choose from based on your experience with the MES. Of course, if there is something else out there that is available and a better option than what I have listed I would welcome that information as well.

Thanks all.
 
Hello everyone. Bear, thank you for this thread, your opinions and invaluable advice throughout these forums. Most of all, thank you for your service.

I am an owner of a Gen. 1 40 inch Masterbuilt (20070311). I have had excellent success with it for five years but it is getting to a point where it needs to be replaced. I have been researching and comparing for a couple of weeks now but I think I have narrowed my search to three smokers, including the 0311 model that is $200 more and Masterbuilt tells me has being discontinued.

https://www.samsclub.com/p/mes145s-digital-electric-smoker/prod22810673?xid=plp_product_1_1

https://www.samsclub.com/p/masterbuilt-40in-digital-electric-smoker/prod23220059

https://www.sears.com/masterbuilt-manufacturing-smoker-elec-40in-ss-digital-per/p-SPM8819139511?

Bear, I would very much value your opinion, as I would the opinion of others, on which smoker you would consider the best to choose from based on your experience with the MES. Of course, if there is something else out there that is available and a better option than what I have listed I would welcome that information as well.

Thanks all.


Hi Hillbilly!!
Of the 3 you're showing, I like your first one best.
I would stay away from your second one---A Gen #2.

However this MES 340G (below) would be the best I can find right now.
It's basically the same as an MES 40 Gen #2.5.
Link:
https://www.samsclub.com/p/40-inch-...2014799?xid=pdp_carousel_rich-relevance.rr0_1

Bear
 
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