Schnucks had butts on sale so I got a few . The butt that I did for the Brats was 9lbs. Added 2lbs of beef to it. I used Hi Mountain Bratwurst mix and added a few more goodies to the mix. Here the 9lbs ready to be chop up for the grinder Pork going through the grinder. ( my grinder broke right at the end of grinding. had about one more lbs to grind.) I like mine with extra stuff in mine and the wife don't so I made his and her brats. I added one TBS of the creole to mine. also so put onions, jalapenos and cheese. the wife's just had cheese added to hers. used some hog casing can see the cheese and the jalapenos in the casing Had enough left over in the bottom of the stuffer for two brats patties so fried them up , little sauerkraut, homemade BBQ Sauce. taste great !!!!! lot of kick to it. braiding them all up all done. Did a little video when I was braiding them . posted it yesterday . here a link to it if you want to check it out. http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/forum/newestpost/121233 going to fire up the UDS and smoke some brats for lunch. thanks for looking .