Looking for a substitute.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by silverlion, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Does anyone have a good substitute for ketchup for sauce recipes? I was thinking tomato sauce and paste. My issue is, the sauce finishes with a "ketchupy" taste that I don't care for. I could use less of it, but would still need a filler to make up for it.   Any direction would be appreciated.
  2. cliffcarter

    cliffcarter Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    Ketchup and tomato based BBQ sauces share many of the same ingredients but in different ratios. If you start with tomato sauce and tomato paste you are essentially making ketchup and adding other things to make a BBQ sauce. I find it easier to cut that step out and use a good quality ketchup, one made with cane sugar not corn syrup, and add my other ingredients to it.

    What are you adding to the ketchup to make your sauce? And how much?
  3. Nearly the same as Jeff's recipe, but with 1/4 cup of beer and 1/3 stick of butter. Just had a little ketchup aftertaste I didn't care for. I think it may be the vinegar aftertaste (I used Heinz) I didn't care for. After adding the beer/butter, it dulled it a little. 
  4. buck1949

    buck1949 Smoke Blower

    Might want to try tomato soup. Out of the can.... Don't add the water / milk etc. I like that flavor real well.
  5. Never thought of that. Might give it a try this weekend.
  6. Just an update. Do not use tomato sauce and paste in lieu of ketchup. That is, unless you like you BBQ to taste like spaghetti.
  7. oldschoolbbq

    oldschoolbbq Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I'll get reprimanded for this , but some liquid smoke makes a ketchup sauce lots better.

    Here's a BBQ sauce my Family swears by  :

    64oz. (cheap ketchup)

    2cups firmly packed Brown Sugar

    1 cup melted Butter

    2 tbls. Worchestershire Sauce

    1/4 fresh Lemon juice

    1/4 cup of liquid smoke(Hickory ,Pecan, Mesquite, (or any other bottled smoke liquid).

    Mix together, heat to melt and use at room temp.

    If the strong Vinegar flavor bothers you , add 1tbls Balsamic Vinegar (it's milder and has a marvelous flavor.)

    Enjoy and as always .. .
  8. Reprimanded?  Why?  LOL, ketchup sucks!!  [​IMG]
  9. chef jimmyj

    chef jimmyj Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Hey Stan. I like your Recipe. Thanks for posting. I put Smoke Powder or Liquid Smoke in my " Go To " BBQ Sauce because it is used on non-smoked foods as well, Hot Dogs, Fries, Burgers, Etc. It is a cheap and dirty way to get smoke flavor on anything.

    This is made with Ketchup but doesn't taste like it at all. If you want to use even less, reduce Ketchup to 1Cup, increase Tomato Paste to 3T and add 3/4 C Water. It will not taste like Tomato Sauce...JJ

    KC Bubba Q Juice

    2C Ketchup

    1/2C Brown Mustard (Gulden's) 

    1/4C Apple Cider Vinegar

    1/2C Molasses

    2C Dark Brn Sugar

    1T Tomato Paste

    1T Your Rub

    1-2tsp Liquid Smoke

    1tsp Worcestershire Sauce

    Combine all and warm over low heat just until it starts to bubble. Simmer about 5 minutes, stirring very frequently, to combine flavors and to thicken slightly.

    Use or pour into a sterile jar and refrigerate for up to 4 weeks.

    Makes 3 1/2 Cups.
    Last edited: May 14, 2014

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