Lo-salt Cured and Smoked Turkey

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Bob, according to The Morton Site they are a Cure...
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CAUTION: This curing salt is designed to be used at the rate specified in the formulation or recipe. It should not be used at higher levels as results will be inconsistent, cured meats will be too salty, and the finished products may be unsatisfactory.
I don't mean it does not cure, and I am not saying it's not a good product.

I mean it is not a cure formulation as in Prague powder 1 or Prague powder 2.

It is, as it states in its label above:

Curing salt designed to be used at the rate specified in the formulation or recipes.

The site then goes on to state the recipes and formulations they have designed for it.

I know a lot of people use it, experiment with it, and have great success with it.  But it is not a class of cure like Prague 1, Cure 1, Pink 1 which is always 6.25 percent sodium nitrite.  The rest is always sodium cloride as a carrier.

This allows us to use it properly and calculate how to reach the proper levels for given weights of meat.

When using cure, it is very important to never exceed the recommended amount of 4 ounces of Cure #1 in 100 pounds of meat. Equivalently this is 2 teaspoons of cure 1 for 10 pounds of chopped meat.  The maximum allowable amount of sodium nitrite is governed by regulations and is limited to 0.25 ounces per 100 pounds of chopped meat. With Cure #1 at a 1:15 dilution (meaning in a pound of Cure #1 one .is sodium nitrite and the remaining 15 ounces salt), we get the proper amount at a rate of 4 ounces added to 100 lb of meat.

This can be used to calculate its use for any amount of meat you want to cure.

Likewise Prague 2, Cure 2 and Pink 2 (usually red) is always contains 6.25 percent sodium nitrite and 0.64 ounces of sodium nitrate.

This allows us to calculate the protections required for pounds of meat.  Sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate are limited to 2.75 ounces per 100 pounds.  This is very important.

Sodium nitrite is quite toxic to humans with the lethal dose being about 4 grams of the compound. As little as 22 mg/kg of body weight can cause death. This is about 2.2 grams for a body mass of 100 kg. Thus, there is enough sodium nitrite in 2 ounces of Prague powder #1 to kill a person dead.

I am not trying to scare you all, I just want you to know with quick products and little experiments you should understand the rules above or you could hurt someone or yourself.

This also means that prague 1 or 2 can not be substituted for tenderquick and any recipe calling for tenderquick cannot have cure 1 or 2 substituted.

But the real problem is the concentrations of the components of tenderquick are not listed on the package so how do you know what the safe level use is for a given product to be greated?  That is why they make recipes and formulations so it can be used following the guidelines to make some cool products at home.

The fact remains tenderquick is not a cure it does not meat guidelines for cure 1 or 2.  Therefore it is a cure mix similar to a sausage cure mix or jerky cure mix.. it has lots of components in it designed to create an end product.  While I agree the mix can be used on lots of things, it cannot be used as a cure in a recipe.  It can only be used as a mix to cure something.

I don't care if you lock the thread or not, I am only giving out information so people can learn.  I am not picking on a product, I like the stuff it gets people into making cured smoked products.  But it is not a cure, the ratios are wrong.  But the tenderquick mix will cure meat.

Please when you read my comments realize I am giving out information not picking on anything or anyone...
 
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I thought that by having sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite it is a true cure, and by dilluting the trites and trates with salt that they are making the quantities to be used for smallish batches of meat more easily measured by those of us who are all thumbs. They also limit our ability to use less salt than what they call for.

Anyway, I was planning to cure half a bird with TQ mixed with brown sugar as per Morton's curing guide (I don't have it with me at work, so I can't get exact here). I recall them having a recipe that called for injection and cured in 24 hours. The other half a bird I was going to apply a rub to (all over and under the skin) and let sit over night. (The bird is an 18# Shadybrook Farms "natural" which they've already "enhanced", which I interpret as meaning that it's been injected, so no brining is advisable.) Then I was planning to smoke both at 250* until I got an IT of 165*.

My questions about cold vs hot and whether the cured bird is edible were really for knowledge rather than for near term use!
The product does meat the standard to be called Cure 1 or Prague 1 or Instacure 1 so it is not a cure.  To be Cure 1 it must be 6.25 percent sodium nitrite and the rest salt.  TQ does not meat that specification and cannot be a cure.  But the product is a premix cure and as such it does cure meat.  But can never be substituted for Cure 1 or Cure 2.

As long as you are using the Morton's guide you will be fine.  I T of 165 F is fine as well.

OK so you should have the hot and cold answer or at least my version of it.  Hope it helped.
 
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This is going to be a rare occassion. I have never disagreed with bbally. Bbally, you are my hero, when it comes to safety, but I don't understand why you say TQ is not a cure. I use it to cure Belly Bacon, Buckboard Bacon, Canadian Bacon, Turkey Bacon, Venison Bacon, Dried Beef, etc, etc.
Maybe you mean because it is not a cure without the added curing nitrites & nitrates that are added to it, but it isn't called Tender Quick until those things are added.  I don't know why you do not consider it a cure. 

And when I use TQ, I do not use the 40 to 140 in 4 hours rule, or any of that type of rule. I low & slow Bacon, Dried Beef & the rest, just like I do fish, because TQ has in fact cured those meats. The only rule I can think of offhand that I have to follow is cooking the foods to 152˚ for some, and 160˚ for others before I eat it, but I would have to do that with the cure #1 types also, so I am still confused as to why you say TQ is not a cure.

If I'm wrong, please explain before I continue. I have 10 pounds of Pork loin on their 4th day in "TQ cure", and I will be low & slow smoking it for about 8 hours on Thanksgiving.

Thanks,

Bear
TQ cures meat no doubt about it. 

In the industry Cure 1, Prague 1, Instacure 1, Fast Cure 1, and all the others called Cure 1 or 2 are specific formulas ratios of salt to sodium nitrite and salt to sodium nitrite and nitrate that can be counted on... that is what cure is.. always. It is that way so every butcher shop, restaurant, deli can create safe food to meat the USDA guidelines and rules. 

TQ does not meat the ratios to be called a cure.

Therefore it falls in the category of a premix.  It is a premix to cure meats as directed by there recipes or guidelines for use.  But it cannot sit in place of Cure ... ever.

I did not say it would not cure meat, I said it is not a Cure... it does not contain the ratios needed to be categoried as a cure.   And the only other ingredient in proper cure can be salt as a carrier.  The ratio must always be the same.  So it is not a cure.  I beleive in their website somewhere they say it cannot be substituted for Cure 1 or Cure 2.
 
Ok maybe im a dumbaz But if it safely cures meat which everyone agrees it does .How can it not be a cure??? Magic?
 
Ok maybe im a dumbaz But if it safely cures meat which everyone agrees it does .How can it not be a cure??? Magic?


 It is a premix or cure recipe.

To be cure it means it could be used in any recipe calling cure 1 or 2.  It does not meet the specification for either.  Therefore it is a premix, yes it cures meat. But you cannot take a recipe that calls for Cure and add it to that recipe.  It is not the formula for Cure 1 or 2 so it cannot be used in a sausage or meat recipe calling for Cure.
 
Bob

So we all understand - can you site the reference you use to distinguish that to be a cure it must contain 6%  sodium nitrate?  That way ALL of us will have the same info so we can refer to it. I really appreciate your knowledge and helpfulness but it would be good for all of us to be able to read it as well. I tried to look for it in the USDA site and can not find it, and would love to have it as a reference for the future.

Thanks for all you do to keep us safe
 
I pickle it, totally unthawed 1st, for three days maximum.
Pops,

Maybe I missed it, but I can't find how long it stayed in that brine of yours.

Also, I would assume that both brines would call for the same length of time for that size Turkey (12 pounds)?

Thanks,

Bear
 
I don't mean it does not cure, and I am not saying it's not a good product.

I mean it is not a cure formulation as in Prague powder 1 or Prague powder 2.

It is, as it states in its label above:

Curing salt designed to be used at the rate specified in the formulation or recipes.

The site then goes on to state the recipes and formulations they have designed for it.

I know a lot of people use it, experiment with it, and have great success with it.  But it is not a class of cure like Prague 1, Cure 1, Pink 1 which is always 6.25 percent sodium nitrite.  The rest is always sodium cloride as a carrier.

This allows us to use it properly and calculate how to reach the proper levels for given weights of meat.

When using cure, it is very important to never exceed the recommended amount of 4 ounces of Cure #1 in 100 pounds of meat. Equivalently this is 2 teaspoons of cure 1 for 10 pounds of chopped meat.  The maximum allowable amount of sodium nitrite is governed by regulations and is limited to 0.25 ounces per 100 pounds of chopped meat. With Cure #1 at a 1:15 dilution (meaning in a pound of Cure #1 one .is sodium nitrite and the remaining 15 ounces salt), we get the proper amount at a rate of 4 ounces added to 100 lb of meat.

This can be used to calculate its use for any amount of meat you want to cure.

Likewise Prague 2, Cure 2 and Pink 2 (usually red) is always contains 6.25 percent sodium nitrite and 0.64 ounces of sodium nitrate.

This allows us to calculate the protections required for pounds of meat.  Sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate are limited to 2.75 ounces per 100 pounds.  This is very important.

Sodium nitrite is quite toxic to humans with the lethal dose being about 4 grams of the compound. As little as 22 mg/kg of body weight can cause death. This is about 2.2 grams for a body mass of 100 kg. Thus, there is enough sodium nitrite in 2 ounces of Prague powder #1 to kill a person dead.

I am not trying to scare you all, I just want you to know with quick products and little experiments you should understand the rules above or you could hurt someone or yourself.

This also means that prague 1 or 2 can not be substituted for tenderquick and any recipe calling for tenderquick cannot have cure 1 or 2 substituted.

But the real problem is the concentrations of the components of tenderquick are not listed on the package so how do you know what the safe level use is for a given product to be greated?  That is why they make recipes and formulations so it can be used following the guidelines to make some cool products at home.

The fact remains tenderquick is not a cure it does not meat guidelines for cure 1 or 2.  Therefore it is a cure mix similar to a sausage cure mix or jerky cure mix.. it has lots of components in it designed to create an end product.  While I agree the mix can be used on lots of things, it cannot be used as a cure in a recipe.  It can only be used as a mix to cure something.

I don't care if you lock the thread or not, I am only giving out information so people can learn.  I am not picking on a product, I like the stuff it gets people into making cured smoked products.  But it is not a cure, the ratios are wrong.  But the tenderquick mix will cure meat.

Please when you read my comments realize I am giving out information not picking on anything or anyone...



Bob

So we all understand - can you site the reference you use to distinguish that to be a cure it must contain 6%  sodium nitrate?  That way ALL of us will have the same info so we can refer to it. I really appreciate your knowledge and helpfulness but it would be good for all of us to be able to read it as well. I tried to look for it in the USDA site and can not find it, and would love to have it as a reference for the future.

Thanks for all you do to keep us safe
Here are a couple good articles...
[h1]USDA Meat Curing Requirements[/h1]
By Mark Fitzpatrick, eHow Contributor

updated: August 23, 2010

I want to do this! What's This?

[h2]Labeling[/h2][h2]Healing Process[/h2][h2]Game Meat[/h2][h2]Mold[/h2][h2]Nitrate Levels[/h2]

  1. Cured and dried sausages served with mustard. image by William Berry from Fotolia.com

    USDA regulates the curing process of meats.
    The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) regulates the processing of all meat products. Meat curing requires USDA approvals in order for the product to be safely sold in market places. Meat curing is one of the oldest ways to safely prepare meat. However, the process does utilize chemical preservatives that need to be labeled on the food product. The curing process must also be utilized properly to kill bacteria and pathogens.
  2. The USDA requires companies that cure meat to label the percentage of chemicals. A common way to label a cured meat is to state the percentage of chemicals that makes up the product. An example from Texas A&M University's Meat Department includes a cured ham product that could state "Ham and Water Product----20% of Weight is Added Ingredients".
  3. Since curing is done at a room temperature, the USDA requires all cured meats to be cured within a room that is 145 degrees Fahrenheit. The temperature that kills most microscopic organisms is 137 degrees Fahrenheit. The USDA recommends the temperature of 145 degrees to destroy all bacteria on the meat. This temperature is especially useful on dangerous bacteria such as e. coli in beef, trichinella in pork, and molds that could grow on the meat.
  4. Game meat, such as deer or elk, may contain bacteria and pathogens that are not seen in meat processed in agricultural farms. Meat from wild game needs to be cooked at an internal temperature of 170 degrees Fahrenheit to kill all pathogens. Microwaving is not recommended for any game meat.
  5. Mold can be a natural result of the curing process. However, some molds are toxic and may contain diseases that are very dangerous to public health. The USDA recommends cleaning off any mold that is on the meat before the curing process.
  6. Nitrates are an essential chemical for the curing process. Nitrates help kill bacteria and curtail botulism. Nitrates must remain at a certain level within the meats. Since common nitrates include sodium and salt, the health effects of these chemicals on people and a diet need to remain at a stable level. The USDA and Meat Inspection Regulations of 1974 require nitrate levels to be around one ounce per 100 pounds of meat or one-quarter per 100 pounds of chopped meat.


Read more: USDA Meat Curing Requirements | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6886712_usda-meat-curing-requirements.html#ixzz15ijwz0h9
[h1]Nitrite in Meat[/h1]
Richard J. Epley, Paul B. Addis and Joseph J. Warthesen
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[h2]Background[/h2]
For centuries, meat has been preserved with salt. At certain levels, salt prevents growth of some types of bacteria that are responsible for meat spoilage. Salt prevents bacterial growth either because of its direct inhibitory effect or because of the drying effect it has on meat (most bacteria require substantial amounts of moisture to live and grow).

As use of salt as a meat preservative spread, a preference developed for certain salts that produced a pink color and special flavor in meat. This is the effect we see in cured meats today. Near the turn of the century it was determined that nitrate, present in some salt, was responsible for this special color and flavor. Still later it was determined that nitrate actually is changed to nitrite by bacterial action during processing and storage and that nitrate itself has no effect on meat color. Today the nitrite used in meat curing is produced commercially as sodium nitrite.

[h2]What Nitrite Does in Meat[/h2]
Nitrite in meat greatly delays development of botulinal toxin (botulism), develops cured meat flavor and color, retards development of rancidity and off-odors and off-flavors during storage, inhibits development of warmed-over flavor, and preserves flavors of spices, smoke, etc.

Adding nitrite to meat is only part of the curing process. Ordinary table salt (sodium chloride) is added because of its effect on flavor. Sugar is added to reduce the harshness of salt. Spices and other flavorings often are added to achieve a characteristic "brand" flavor. Most, but not all, cured meat products are smoked after the curing process to impart a smoked meat flavor.

Sodium nitrite, rather than sodium nitrate, is most commonly used for curing (although in some products, such as country ham, sodium nitrate is used because of the long aging period). In a series of normal reactions, nitrite is converted to nitric oxide. Nitric oxide combines with myoglobin, the pigment responsible for the natural red color of uncured meat. They form nitric oxide myoglobin, which is a deep red color (as in uncooked dry sausage) that changes to the characteristic bright pink normally associated with cured and smoked meat (such as wieners and ham) when heated during the smoking process.

[h2]How Much Nitrite Can Be Used?[/h2]
For the curing process, sodium nitrite legally can be used at up to the following levels, set by the Meat Inspection Regulations, Title 9, Chapter 111, Subchapter A, Code of Federal Regulations, 1974:
  • 2 pounds per 100 gallons pickle brine at the 10 percent pump level in the product
  • 1 ounce per 100 pounds meat (dry cured)
  • 1/4 ounce per 100 pounds chopped meat and/or meat by-product.
As established by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) in the Meat Inspection Regulations cited above, the use of nitrites, nitrates, or combinations of them cannot result in more than 200 parts per million (ppm), calculated as sodium nitrite, in the finished product. Parts per million can be calculated as follows:
ppm =grams sodium nitrite x 1 million
—————————————————
grams of cured meat sample
For example:
0.01 gram sodium nitrite x 1,000,000
———————————————————
50 grams cured meat
= 200 ppm sodium nitrite
Another way of expressing 200 ppm is to say it is 1 pound of sodium nitrite in 5,000 pounds of meat.

Effective June 15, 1978, the USDA changed the curing procedures of "pumped" bacon as follows: the use of sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate is prohibited; the level of ingoing sodium nitrite shall be 120 ppm (or 148 ppm potassium nitrite); the level of ingoing sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) or sodium erythorbate (isoascorbate) shall be 550 ppm. According to USDA surveys, these changes have resulted in bacon that does not form nitrosamines when cooked at 340 degrees F for 3 minutes on each side. These three changes apply only to pumped bacon and do not apply to dry cured bacon.

[h2]Toxicity[/h2]
The following information on nitrite toxicity is from "GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe) Food Ingredients: Nitrates and Nitrites (Including Nitrosamines)," 1972. This report was prepared for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by Battele-Columbus Laboratories and Department of Commerce, Springfield, VA 22151.

According to this source, the fatal dose of potassium nitrate for adult humans is in the range of 30 to 35 grams consumed as a single dose; the fatal dose of sodium nitrite is in the range of 22 to 23 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. Lower doses of sodium or potassium nitrate or sodium nitrite have caused acute methemoglobinemia (when hemoglobin loses its ability to carry oxygen), particularly in infants, resulting from conversion of nitrate to nitrite after consumption. There is no confirmable evidence in the literature on the carcinogenicity (cancer-causing capacity) of nitrate as such.

It has been reported that people normally consume more nitrates from their vegetable intake than from the cured meat products they eat. Spinach, beets, radishes, celery, and cabbages are among the vegetables that generally contain very high concentrations of nitrates (J. Food Sci., 52:1632). The nitrate content of vegetables is affected by maturity, soil conditions, fertilizer, variety, etc. It has been estimated that 10 percent of the human exposure to nitrite in the digestive tract comes from cured meats and 90 percent comes from vegetables and other sources. Nitrates can be reduced to nitrites by certain microorganisms present in foods and in the gastrointestinal tract. This has resulted in nitrite toxicity in infants fed vegetables with a high nitrate level. No evidence currently exists implicating nitrite itself as a carcinogen.

To obtain 22 milligrams of sodium nitrite per kilogram of body weight (a lethal dose), a 154-pound adult would have to consume, at once, 18.57 pounds of cured meat product containing 200 ppm sodium nitrite (because nitrite is rapidly converted to nitric oxide during the curing process, the 18.57 pound figure should be tripled at least). Even if a person could eat that amount of cured meat, salt, not nitrite, probably would be the toxic factor.

[h2]Nitrosamines[/h2]
In the 1970s, newspaper articles discussed the safety of meat products cured with nitrite. Under certain conditions not yet fully understood, the natural breakdown products of proteins known as amines can combine with nitrites to form compounds known as nitrosamines. There are many different types of nitrosamines, most of which are known carcinogens in test animals.

Not all cured meat products contain nitrosamines; when present, they usually are in very minute amounts. According to S.R. Tannenbaum and T.Y. Fan in "Uncertainties about Nitrosamine Formation in and from Foods," proceedings from the Meat Industry Research Conference, University of Chicago, 1973, many variables influence nitrosamine levels: amount of nitrite added during processing, concentrations of amines in meat, type and amounts of other ingredients used in processing, actual processing conditions, length of storage, storage temperatures, method of cooking, and degree of doneness. For example, the USDA now requires adding ascorbic acid (vitamin C) or erythorbic acid to bacon cure, a practice that greatly reduces the formation of nitrosamines.

The effects of heating meat products cured with nitrite have been investigated. The previously cited study, "Effect of Frying and Other Cooking Conditions on Nitrosopyrrolidine Formation in Bacon," by J.W. Pensabene, et al., indicated that when bacon was fried at 210 degrees F for 10 minutes (raw), 210 degrees F for 105 minutes (medium well), 275 degrees F for 10 minutes (very light), or 275 degrees F for 30 minutes (medium well), no conclusive evidence of nitrosopyrrolidine could be found. But when bacon was fried at 350 degrees F for 6 minutes (medium well), 400 degrees F for 4 minutes (medium well), or 400 degrees F for 10 minutes (burned), nitrosopyrrolidine formation was conclusively found at 10, 17, and 19 parts per billion. Thus, well done or burned bacon probably is potentially more hazardous than less well done bacon. Bacon cooked by microwave has less nitrosamine than fried bacon. Consumers should cook bacon properly.

The same study and one by W. Fiddler, et al. (J. Food Sci., 39:1070, 1974) have shown that fat cook-out or drippings usually contain more nitrosopyrrolidine than the bacon contains.

It is unknown at what levels, if any, nitrosamines are formed in humans after they eat cured meat products, or what constitutes a dangerous level in meat or in humans. Nitrosamines are found very infrequently in all cured products except overcooked bacon, as discussed above.

Feeding studies documented in the "GRAS" report using meats containing high levels of nitrite showed no evidence of carcinogenesis. However, nitrosamines still are considered a definite potential hazard to human health.

Bacon manufacturers are under a USDA surveillance program whereby bacon is sampled, cooked, and tested for nitrosamines. Levels above a certain maximum amount are not permitted.

Although nitrite is a controversial food additive, recent studies indicate that nitrite can inhibit the production of malonaldehyde, which may be toxic to living cells. In small quantities (yet at 1,000 times the levels of nitrosamines), malonaldehyde frequently is found in food products that turn rancid. Wieners, ham, bacon, and corned beef resist the accumulation of malonaldehyde due to their nitrite content.

[h2]Who Controls Usage?[/h2]
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is the federal agency responsible for testing or validating scientific data related to human safety of food additives. On November 16, 1973, the FDA established guidelines for packaging nitrite and nitrate to eliminate the possibility of nitrosamine formation in stored curing spice premixes to be used for curing meat products (see Federal Register, Vol. 38, No. 221, Friday, November 16, 1973, page 31,679). Questions concerning the safety of nitrite in meat should be directed to the FDA.

The USDA is the federal agency responsible for monitoring proper use of nitrite by meat processors, including the testing of finished meat products, to insure that nitrite is not present in amounts exceeding 200 ppm. Questions concerning use of nitrite in meat should be directed to the USDA.

A National Academy of Sciences Committee recently reviewed several aspects of nitrite usage in cured meats. The committee recommended that the search for alternatives and alternative approaches to the use of nitrite be continued. They cautioned, however, that no new agent or combination of agents should be substituted for nitrite until adequate testing has ensured that it does not present a hazard to human health.

[h2]Summary[/h2]
Based on available evidence to date, nitrite as used in meat and meat products is considered safe because known benefits outweigh potential risks.
Richard J. Epley, Paul B. Addis and Joseph J. Warthesen
Animal Science
 
I don't mean it does not cure, and I am not saying it's not a good product.

I mean it is not a cure formulation as in Prague powder 1 or Prague powder 2.

It is, as it states in its label above:

Curing salt designed to be used at the rate specified in the formulation or recipes.

The site then goes on to state the recipes and formulations they have designed for it.

I know a lot of people use it, experiment with it, and have great success with it.  But it is not a class of cure like Prague 1, Cure 1, Pink 1 which is always 6.25 percent sodium nitrite.  The rest is always sodium cloride as a carrier.

This allows us to use it properly and calculate how to reach the proper levels for given weights of meat.

When using cure, it is very important to never exceed the recommended amount of 4 ounces of Cure #1 in 100 pounds of meat. Equivalently this is 2 teaspoons of cure 1 for 10 pounds of chopped meat.  The maximum allowable amount of sodium nitrite is governed by regulations and is limited to 0.25 ounces per 100 pounds of chopped meat. With Cure #1 at a 1:15 dilution (meaning in a pound of Cure #1 one .is sodium nitrite and the remaining 15 ounces salt), we get the proper amount at a rate of 4 ounces added to 100 lb of meat.

This can be used to calculate its use for any amount of meat you want to cure.

Likewise Prague 2, Cure 2 and Pink 2 (usually red) is always contains 6.25 percent sodium nitrite and 0.64 ounces of sodium nitrate.

This allows us to calculate the protections required for pounds of meat.  Sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate are limited to 2.75 ounces per 100 pounds.  This is very important.

Sodium nitrite is quite toxic to humans with the lethal dose being about 4 grams of the compound. As little as 22 mg/kg of body weight can cause death. This is about 2.2 grams for a body mass of 100 kg. Thus, there is enough sodium nitrite in 2 ounces of Prague powder #1 to kill a person dead.

I am not trying to scare you all, I just want you to know with quick products and little experiments you should understand the rules above or you could hurt someone or yourself.

This also means that prague 1 or 2 can not be substituted for tenderquick and any recipe calling for tenderquick cannot have cure 1 or 2 substituted.

But the real problem is the concentrations of the components of tenderquick are not listed on the package so how do you know what the safe level use is for a given product to be greated?  That is why they make recipes and formulations so it can be used following the guidelines to make some cool products at home.

The fact remains tenderquick is not a cure it does not meat guidelines for cure 1 or 2.  Therefore it is a cure mix similar to a sausage cure mix or jerky cure mix.. it has lots of components in it designed to create an end product.  While I agree the mix can be used on lots of things, it cannot be used as a cure in a recipe.  It can only be used as a mix to cure something.

I don't care if you lock the thread or not, I am only giving out information so people can learn.  I am not picking on a product, I like the stuff it gets people into making cured smoked products.  But it is not a cure, the ratios are wrong.  But the tenderquick mix will cure meat.

Please when you read my comments realize I am giving out information not picking on anything or anyone...



Bob

So we all understand - can you site the reference you use to distinguish that to be a cure it must contain 6%  sodium nitrate?  That way ALL of us will have the same info so we can refer to it. I really appreciate your knowledge and helpfulness but it would be good for all of us to be able to read it as well. I tried to look for it in the USDA site and can not find it, and would love to have it as a reference for the future.

Thanks for all you do to keep us safe
Here are a couple good articles...
[h1]USDA Meat Curing Requirements[/h1]
By Mark Fitzpatrick, eHow Contributor

updated: August 23, 2010

I want to do this! What's This?

[h2]Labeling[/h2][h2]Healing Process[/h2][h2]Game Meat[/h2][h2]Mold[/h2][h2]Nitrate Levels[/h2]

  1. Cured and dried sausages served with mustard. image by William Berry from Fotolia.com

    USDA regulates the curing process of meats.
    The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) regulates the processing of all meat products. Meat curing requires USDA approvals in order for the product to be safely sold in market places. Meat curing is one of the oldest ways to safely prepare meat. However, the process does utilize chemical preservatives that need to be labeled on the food product. The curing process must also be utilized properly to kill bacteria and pathogens.
  2. The USDA requires companies that cure meat to label the percentage of chemicals. A common way to label a cured meat is to state the percentage of chemicals that makes up the product. An example from Texas A&M University's Meat Department includes a cured ham product that could state "Ham and Water Product----20% of Weight is Added Ingredients".
  3. Since curing is done at a room temperature, the USDA requires all cured meats to be cured within a room that is 145 degrees Fahrenheit. The temperature that kills most microscopic organisms is 137 degrees Fahrenheit. The USDA recommends the temperature of 145 degrees to destroy all bacteria on the meat. This temperature is especially useful on dangerous bacteria such as e. coli in beef, trichinella in pork, and molds that could grow on the meat.
  4. Game meat, such as deer or elk, may contain bacteria and pathogens that are not seen in meat processed in agricultural farms. Meat from wild game needs to be cooked at an internal temperature of 170 degrees Fahrenheit to kill all pathogens. Microwaving is not recommended for any game meat.
  5. Mold can be a natural result of the curing process. However, some molds are toxic and may contain diseases that are very dangerous to public health. The USDA recommends cleaning off any mold that is on the meat before the curing process.
  6. Nitrates are an essential chemical for the curing process. Nitrates help kill bacteria and curtail botulism. Nitrates must remain at a certain level within the meats. Since common nitrates include sodium and salt, the health effects of these chemicals on people and a diet need to remain at a stable level. The USDA and Meat Inspection Regulations of 1974 require nitrate levels to be around one ounce per 100 pounds of meat or one-quarter per 100 pounds of chopped meat.


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[h1]Nitrite in Meat[/h1]
Richard J. Epley, Paul B. Addis and Joseph J. Warthesen
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[h2]Background[/h2]
For centuries, meat has been preserved with salt. At certain levels, salt prevents growth of some types of bacteria that are responsible for meat spoilage. Salt prevents bacterial growth either because of its direct inhibitory effect or because of the drying effect it has on meat (most bacteria require substantial amounts of moisture to live and grow).

As use of salt as a meat preservative spread, a preference developed for certain salts that produced a pink color and special flavor in meat. This is the effect we see in cured meats today. Near the turn of the century it was determined that nitrate, present in some salt, was responsible for this special color and flavor. Still later it was determined that nitrate actually is changed to nitrite by bacterial action during processing and storage and that nitrate itself has no effect on meat color. Today the nitrite used in meat curing is produced commercially as sodium nitrite.

[h2]What Nitrite Does in Meat[/h2]
Nitrite in meat greatly delays development of botulinal toxin (botulism), develops cured meat flavor and color, retards development of rancidity and off-odors and off-flavors during storage, inhibits development of warmed-over flavor, and preserves flavors of spices, smoke, etc.

Adding nitrite to meat is only part of the curing process. Ordinary table salt (sodium chloride) is added because of its effect on flavor. Sugar is added to reduce the harshness of salt. Spices and other flavorings often are added to achieve a characteristic "brand" flavor. Most, but not all, cured meat products are smoked after the curing process to impart a smoked meat flavor.

Sodium nitrite, rather than sodium nitrate, is most commonly used for curing (although in some products, such as country ham, sodium nitrate is used because of the long aging period). In a series of normal reactions, nitrite is converted to nitric oxide. Nitric oxide combines with myoglobin, the pigment responsible for the natural red color of uncured meat. They form nitric oxide myoglobin, which is a deep red color (as in uncooked dry sausage) that changes to the characteristic bright pink normally associated with cured and smoked meat (such as wieners and ham) when heated during the smoking process.

[h2]How Much Nitrite Can Be Used?[/h2]
For the curing process, sodium nitrite legally can be used at up to the following levels, set by the Meat Inspection Regulations, Title 9, Chapter 111, Subchapter A, Code of Federal Regulations, 1974:
  • 2 pounds per 100 gallons pickle brine at the 10 percent pump level in the product
  • 1 ounce per 100 pounds meat (dry cured)
  • 1/4 ounce per 100 pounds chopped meat and/or meat by-product.
As established by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) in the Meat Inspection Regulations cited above, the use of nitrites, nitrates, or combinations of them cannot result in more than 200 parts per million (ppm), calculated as sodium nitrite, in the finished product. Parts per million can be calculated as follows:
ppm =grams sodium nitrite x 1 million
—————————————————
grams of cured meat sample
For example:
0.01 gram sodium nitrite x 1,000,000
———————————————————
50 grams cured meat
= 200 ppm sodium nitrite
Another way of expressing 200 ppm is to say it is 1 pound of sodium nitrite in 5,000 pounds of meat.

Effective June 15, 1978, the USDA changed the curing procedures of "pumped" bacon as follows: the use of sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate is prohibited; the level of ingoing sodium nitrite shall be 120 ppm (or 148 ppm potassium nitrite); the level of ingoing sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) or sodium erythorbate (isoascorbate) shall be 550 ppm. According to USDA surveys, these changes have resulted in bacon that does not form nitrosamines when cooked at 340 degrees F for 3 minutes on each side. These three changes apply only to pumped bacon and do not apply to dry cured bacon.

[h2]Toxicity[/h2]
The following information on nitrite toxicity is from "GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe) Food Ingredients: Nitrates and Nitrites (Including Nitrosamines)," 1972. This report was prepared for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by Battele-Columbus Laboratories and Department of Commerce, Springfield, VA 22151.

According to this source, the fatal dose of potassium nitrate for adult humans is in the range of 30 to 35 grams consumed as a single dose; the fatal dose of sodium nitrite is in the range of 22 to 23 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. Lower doses of sodium or potassium nitrate or sodium nitrite have caused acute methemoglobinemia (when hemoglobin loses its ability to carry oxygen), particularly in infants, resulting from conversion of nitrate to nitrite after consumption. There is no confirmable evidence in the literature on the carcinogenicity (cancer-causing capacity) of nitrate as such.

It has been reported that people normally consume more nitrates from their vegetable intake than from the cured meat products they eat. Spinach, beets, radishes, celery, and cabbages are among the vegetables that generally contain very high concentrations of nitrates (J. Food Sci., 52:1632). The nitrate content of vegetables is affected by maturity, soil conditions, fertilizer, variety, etc. It has been estimated that 10 percent of the human exposure to nitrite in the digestive tract comes from cured meats and 90 percent comes from vegetables and other sources. Nitrates can be reduced to nitrites by certain microorganisms present in foods and in the gastrointestinal tract. This has resulted in nitrite toxicity in infants fed vegetables with a high nitrate level. No evidence currently exists implicating nitrite itself as a carcinogen.

To obtain 22 milligrams of sodium nitrite per kilogram of body weight (a lethal dose), a 154-pound adult would have to consume, at once, 18.57 pounds of cured meat product containing 200 ppm sodium nitrite (because nitrite is rapidly converted to nitric oxide during the curing process, the 18.57 pound figure should be tripled at least). Even if a person could eat that amount of cured meat, salt, not nitrite, probably would be the toxic factor.

[h2]Nitrosamines[/h2]
In the 1970s, newspaper articles discussed the safety of meat products cured with nitrite. Under certain conditions not yet fully understood, the natural breakdown products of proteins known as amines can combine with nitrites to form compounds known as nitrosamines. There are many different types of nitrosamines, most of which are known carcinogens in test animals.

Not all cured meat products contain nitrosamines; when present, they usually are in very minute amounts. According to S.R. Tannenbaum and T.Y. Fan in "Uncertainties about Nitrosamine Formation in and from Foods," proceedings from the Meat Industry Research Conference, University of Chicago, 1973, many variables influence nitrosamine levels: amount of nitrite added during processing, concentrations of amines in meat, type and amounts of other ingredients used in processing, actual processing conditions, length of storage, storage temperatures, method of cooking, and degree of doneness. For example, the USDA now requires adding ascorbic acid (vitamin C) or erythorbic acid to bacon cure, a practice that greatly reduces the formation of nitrosamines.

The effects of heating meat products cured with nitrite have been investigated. The previously cited study, "Effect of Frying and Other Cooking Conditions on Nitrosopyrrolidine Formation in Bacon," by J.W. Pensabene, et al., indicated that when bacon was fried at 210 degrees F for 10 minutes (raw), 210 degrees F for 105 minutes (medium well), 275 degrees F for 10 minutes (very light), or 275 degrees F for 30 minutes (medium well), no conclusive evidence of nitrosopyrrolidine could be found. But when bacon was fried at 350 degrees F for 6 minutes (medium well), 400 degrees F for 4 minutes (medium well), or 400 degrees F for 10 minutes (burned), nitrosopyrrolidine formation was conclusively found at 10, 17, and 19 parts per billion. Thus, well done or burned bacon probably is potentially more hazardous than less well done bacon. Bacon cooked by microwave has less nitrosamine than fried bacon. Consumers should cook bacon properly.

The same study and one by W. Fiddler, et al. (J. Food Sci., 39:1070, 1974) have shown that fat cook-out or drippings usually contain more nitrosopyrrolidine than the bacon contains.

It is unknown at what levels, if any, nitrosamines are formed in humans after they eat cured meat products, or what constitutes a dangerous level in meat or in humans. Nitrosamines are found very infrequently in all cured products except overcooked bacon, as discussed above.

Feeding studies documented in the "GRAS" report using meats containing high levels of nitrite showed no evidence of carcinogenesis. However, nitrosamines still are considered a definite potential hazard to human health.

Bacon manufacturers are under a USDA surveillance program whereby bacon is sampled, cooked, and tested for nitrosamines. Levels above a certain maximum amount are not permitted.

Although nitrite is a controversial food additive, recent studies indicate that nitrite can inhibit the production of malonaldehyde, which may be toxic to living cells. In small quantities (yet at 1,000 times the levels of nitrosamines), malonaldehyde frequently is found in food products that turn rancid. Wieners, ham, bacon, and corned beef resist the accumulation of malonaldehyde due to their nitrite content.

[h2]Who Controls Usage?[/h2]
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is the federal agency responsible for testing or validating scientific data related to human safety of food additives. On November 16, 1973, the FDA established guidelines for packaging nitrite and nitrate to eliminate the possibility of nitrosamine formation in stored curing spice premixes to be used for curing meat products (see Federal Register, Vol. 38, No. 221, Friday, November 16, 1973, page 31,679). Questions concerning the safety of nitrite in meat should be directed to the FDA.

The USDA is the federal agency responsible for monitoring proper use of nitrite by meat processors, including the testing of finished meat products, to insure that nitrite is not present in amounts exceeding 200 ppm. Questions concerning use of nitrite in meat should be directed to the USDA.

A National Academy of Sciences Committee recently reviewed several aspects of nitrite usage in cured meats. The committee recommended that the search for alternatives and alternative approaches to the use of nitrite be continued. They cautioned, however, that no new agent or combination of agents should be substituted for nitrite until adequate testing has ensured that it does not present a hazard to human health.

[h2]Summary[/h2]
Based on available evidence to date, nitrite as used in meat and meat products is considered safe because known benefits outweigh potential risks.
Richard J. Epley, Paul B. Addis and Joseph J. Warthesen
Animal Science
 
Great Information Guys!!!

I have used both Cure #1 and Morton's TQ with good results. I personally have moved to using Cure #1, because like Pops, I need to reduce my salt intake, and I can control the amount of salt I use in my recipes.

I think what's most important, is that you "Follow Specific Directions for the Curing Process You Are Using" 

We definitely need  WIKI...

TJ
 
Everything in this post written in BLUE is why Bearcarver says Tender Quick is in fact a meat cure, and is actually much better for Dry Curing than any of the other cures---The Key word in that sentence is "DRY".

OK,

I'm not going to say Cure #1 and Prague Powder are not cures because they don't have the same formulation as Tender Quick.

I will say that if you remove everything added to TQ, and just left the ingredients that are in all of the other "pink" salts the amount of those ingredients would be the same in TQ as in the others. If it was not, Morton Salt would not be able to sell it as "CURE"!

Here are the ingredients in Tender Quick:

Ingredients
Salt, Sugar, Sodium Nitrate, Sodium Nitrite, Propylene Glycol.

Here is my reason for liking Tender Quick even more than the others-------BECAUSE I LIKE TO DRY CURE SAFELY !!!!!!!

If you do a brine cure like Pops, the pink salts are definitely the way to go, because you can regulate how much salt & sugar you add to that tiny amount of pink salt that is called for in that brine, and Tender Quick already has salt & sugar mixed with their cure part of their cure formula.

But here is why TQ in my book is much better than any of the other cures for dry curing!

ONE OUNCE of pink salt is all you are supposed to use on 25 pounds of meat!

Now think about that---Can you evenly distribute 1 OUNCE of pink salt on the outside of 25 pounds of meat???

Of course not---That would be humanly impossible!

So how do you do it?

You have to mix other things, like salt & sugar to that pink salt, in order to have enough particles to spread around on all of that meat surface!

Now does that mean that you are no longer using cure???   NO!

It does however mean that you are still not spreading your cure evenly on ALL of that meat, because you can't mix those ingredients evenly in your mix.

Some of your meat will get more cure than other parts of your meat!!!!   That's not good!

You can solve this dilemma very easily, by using Tender Quick. No I don't own stocks in Morton's---I just read a lot!

Morton's takes the same cure we like to call "pink salt" and mixes salt, and sugar, and a couple other things to make the quantity of granules large enough to be able to spread on ALL THAT MEAT!

So now you ask, "If I can't mix my pink salt with other things well enough to evenly distribute it on ALL THAT MEAT, how can Morton's do it?

THAT IS BECAUSE one of those ingredients Morton's uses in their mix is Propylene Glycol.

That "PG" is added, because it guarantees that the ingredients are distributed evenly in the proper ratio, even for the smallest amounts.

Here is how they put it: Due to the miscibility with both polar and non-polar substances the propylene glycol—a derivative of natural gas—is commonly used as a coupling agent/carrier in a widely diverse variety of food products. It’s use guarantees that the ingredients are distributed evenly in the proper ratio, even for the smallest amounts.

Why it was developed?
To be effective in curing meat, there must be the correct amount of nitrates and nitrites evenly distributed throughout the curing mixture, and the curing mixture then evenly applied to the meat. Too little is ineffective whilst excessive amounts result in “nitrite burn” and should be avoided as it's a possible carcinogenic. However, it is nearly impossible to create the proper curing mixture in the home environment, as the salt, sugar and nitrates/nitrites cannot be mixed effectively and uniformly. Simply combining the ingredients is ineffective, because "stratification"—the settling out of the ingredients—occurs, so that the nitrates and nitrites will not be distributed evenly throughout the mixture. The meat curing is therefore also uneven, and spoilage often results/occurs. 

Thank You,

Bear

This (below) is one of the places I got the above information:

According to information supplied by Morton's Consumer Affairs (see following posting) the amount of sodium nitrate (NaNO3) and sodium nitrite (NaNO2) present in Tender Quick are at the 0.5 % level each.

Why it is used?
For centuries, though not realized or understood—nitrates and nitrites naturally present in sea salts have been curing meats. The presence of these reduced the risk of botulism poisoning occurring during the curing period, and contributed to the change in the meat's colour. The transformation from the colour of raw meat to the typical “cured pink” colour associated with that of properly cured hams and cured sausages.

What do the ingredients do?
The salt aids the flavour of the meat and through the process of osmosis and the reduced water acivity (aw) helps to preserve the meat. The sugar counteracts the hardness of the astringent salt. Simply put, the nitrate converts into nitrite, which turns into a gas, and it is this which imparts the cured flavour and colour to the meat. Due to the miscibility with both polar and non-polar substances the propylene glycol—a derivative of natural gas—is commonly used as a coupling agent/carrier in a widely diverse variety of food products. It’s use guarantees that the ingredients are distributed evenly in the proper ratio, even for the smallest amounts.

Why it was developed?
To be effective in curing meat, there must be the correct amount of nitrates and nitrites evenly distributed throughout the curing mixture, and the curing mixture then evenly applied to the meat. Too little is ineffective whilst excessive amounts result in “nitrite burn” and should be avoided as it's a possible carcinogenic. However, it is nearly impossible to create the proper curing mixture in the home environment, as the salt, sugar and nitrates/nitrites cannot be mixed effectively and uniformly. Simply combining the ingredients is ineffective, because "stratification"—the settling out of the ingredients—occurs, so that the nitrates and nitrites will not be distributed evenly throughout the mixture. The meat curing is therefore also uneven, and spoilage often results/occurs. 


The USDA at present have set the maximum ingoing nitrate and nitrite limits for comminuted products at 156 ppm and 1 718 ppm respectfully. For the 156 ppm figure this works out to be ¼ ounce of nitrite per 100 pounds of meat block, and for the 1 718 ppm this works out to be 2 ¾ ounces of nitrate per 100 pounds of meat block. Note: ppm equals parts per million.

Years ago, in the 1930s, the Morton Salt Company developed “Morton’s Sugar-curing Smoke-Salt” the precursor to today’s Tender Quick, so that the home cook could safely cure meat. 
 
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Bob

So we all understand - can you site the reference you use to distinguish that to be a cure it must contain 6%  sodium nitrate?  That way ALL of us will have the same info so we can refer to it. I really appreciate your knowledge and helpfulness but it would be good for all of us to be able to read it as well. I tried to look for it in the USDA site and can not find it, and would love to have it as a reference for the future.

Thanks for all you do to keep us safe


 I don't have the food manufacturers standards in my library, but I will track it down for you.

Mean time I think if you read the processor inspectors handbook you will see clearly where the 6.25 percent comes from.  It is used in most the calculations.

http://prochefblog.com/public_pics/foodcode2009/cureprocess.pdf
 
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[h1]Sausage making[/h1]
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Sausage making originally developed as a means to preserve and transport meat. Primitive societies learned that dried berries and spices could be added to dried meat. By 600-500 BC there is mention of sausages from China, Rome and Greece. Sausages come in two main types: fresh and cured. Cured sausages may be either cooked or dried. Most cured sausages are smoked; but this is not mandatory. The curing process itself changes the meat and imparts its own flavors. An example is the difference in taste between a pork roast and a ham.

All smoked sausages are cured. The reason is the threat of botulism. The bacterium responsible, Clostridium botulinum, is ubiquitous in the environment, grows in the anaerobic conditions created in the interior of the sausage, and thrives in the 40 °F (4 °C) to 140 °F (5 °C to 60 °C) temperature range common in the smoke house and subsequent ambient storage. Thus, for safety reasons, sausages are cured before smoking.
[h2]Cures: sodium and potassium nitrite and nitrate[/h2]
Both nitrites and nitrates are used in curing meats and making sausages. Nitrites are used for all types of sausages and are the most common. Nitrates are used only in the preparation of the cured dry style of sausages. Over a period of time the nitrates are converted into nitrites by endogenous or added bacteria.

The human digestive system manufactures nitrites, which is thought to be what prevents botulism, which would thrive in the anaerobic conditions and temperature range of the digestive system (gut).The lack of nitrites has been implicated in sudden infant death syndrome.[sup][citation needed][/sup]

Cured meat products typically contain less than 40 ppm w/w nitrites.

Potassium nitrite and potassium nitrate additions allow the production of sausages with lower levels of sodium. When using the potassium form, it is necessary to include other ingredients to mask the bitter flavours it imparts.

Old recipes recommending the use of saltpetre are not recommended. The primary reason is that often these old recipes contain many times more curing ingredients than are appropriate. Modern techniques are readily available and do a much better job.

In the sausage industry the nitrites and nitrates are pre-formulated into products called Prague powder#1 and Prague powder#2. Prague powder #1 contains 6.25% sodium nitrite and 93.75% sodium chloride and is used for the preparation of all cured meats and sausages other than the dry type. Prague powder #2 contains 1 ounce of sodium nitrite (6.25%) and 0.64 ounces sodium nitrate (4.0%) per pound of finished product (the remaining 14.36 ounces is sodium chloride) and is used for the preparation of cured dry sausages. Prague powder #2 should never be used on any product that will be fried at high temperature (eg. bacon) because of the resulting formation of nitrosamines.

When using cure, it is very important to never exceed the recommended amount of 4 ounces of Prague powder #1 in 100 pounds of meat (2.5 g/kg). Equivalently this is 2 teaspoons for 10 pounds. Note that the maximum allowable amount of sodium nitrite and potassium nitrite is governed by regulations and is limited to 0.25 ounces per 100 pounds of chopped meat. Since Prague powder #1 is a 1:15 dilution (in a pound of Prague powder #1 one ounce is sodium nitrite and 15 ounces are common table salt), we get the proper amount at a rate of 4 ounces added to 100 lb (45 kg) of meat.

Sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate are limited to 2.75 ounces per 100 pounds.

Sodium and potassium nitrite are quite toxic to humans with the lethal dose being about 4 grams. As little as 22 mg/kg of body weight can cause death. This is about 2.2 grams for a body mass of 100 kg. Thus, there is enough sodium nitrite in 2 ounces of Prague powder #1 to kill a person.

Morton's Tenderquick is the brand name of another formulation of sodium nitrite, with salt and sugars added. It is not the same concentration as either "Prague powder #1 or #2". Since the amount of nitrite present in a recipe is essential for safety, one cannot take a recipe designed for Prague powder and simply substitute like amounts of such products as Morton's Tenderquick. To do so would invite the risk of botulism poisoning. Similarly, one cannot just substitute Prague powder #1 in place of Morton's Tenderquick. For any such substitutions, one must calculate the exact amount of nitrite required and make the proper adjustments.
[h2]Fresh sausages[/h2]
Fresh sausages are simply seasoned ground meats that are cooked before serving. Fresh sausages normally do not use cure (Prague powder #1) although cure can be used if desired. In addition fresh sausages typically do not use smoke flavors, although liquid smoke can be used. Fresh sausages are never smoked in a cold smoker because of the danger of botulism.

The primary seasoning agents in fresh sausages are salt and sugar along with various savory herbs and spices, and often vegetables, including onion and garlic.

A British Fresh sausage typically contains around 10% butcher's rusk, 10% water, 2.5% seasoning, and 77.5% meat.[sup][1][/sup] At point of sale British sausages will often be labelled as "actual meat content X%". As meat can be fatty or lean, the X% is calculated using reference tables with the intention to give a fairer representation of the "visual lean" meat content.[sup][2][/sup]
[h2]Cured cooked sausages[/h2]
Cured sausages differ from fresh sausages by including 2 teaspoons of cure (Prague powder #1) per 10 pounds of finished product. This is usually interpreted per 10 pounds of meat. This works out to 4 ounces of cure for 100 pounds of sausage.

Next the product is typically hot smoked. However, similar effects can be achieved by incorporating liquid smoke in the recipe. Smoking temperatures vary and are typically less than 155 degrees Fahrenheit (68 °C). At a temperature of 152 °F (67 °C) these sausages are fully cooked.

In some cases cold smoke is used. If so, then the sausage may be subsequently cooked in a water bath held at the proper temperature. An example of this process is the preparation of Braunschweiger. In this style of sausage, after stuffing into 2.75-inch (70 mm) to 3-inch (76 mm) hog buns or fiberous casings, the sausage is submerged in 160 °F (70 °C) water for 2 to 2½ hours until the internal temperature reaches 152 °F (67 °C). At this point the sausage should be chilled in ice water, then cold smoked at a temperature of 115 to 120 °F (46 to 49 °C) for 2–3 hours.
[h2]Cured dry sausages[/h2]
Cured dry sausages are prepared in a fashion similar to cured cooked sausages. The major difference is that Prague powder #2 will be used in place of Prague powder #1. In addition, certified meats must be used. Since these products are never heated to a temperature that can kill trichinosis, it is necessary to accomplish this by other methods. The usual method is via freezing. Pork may be rendered acceptable for use in dry sausages by freezing it using the following guidelines:
5 °F (−15 °C)20–30 days
−10 °F (−23 °C)10–20 days
−20 °F (−29 °C)6–12 days
The specific regulations are quite complex and are beyond the scope of this article. They depend on the thickness of the cuts of meat, the packaging method, and other factors. In addition there are very specific requirements as to the times in the drying rooms and the temperatures in the smoke rooms.

While it is quite feasible for the small sausage kitchen or hobbyist to produce excellent cured dry sausages, a great deal of technical information is required. Alternatively, certified pork can be simply purchased.
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[h2]References[/h2]
  1. ^ "Lucas Technical Bulletins - Sausage". http://www.lucas-ingredients.co.uk/tech_sausage.htm.  
  2. ^ "Lucas Technical Bulletins - Sausage". http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/pdfs/meatguidbutchersguid.pdf.  
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There sure have been a lot of threads on curing meat lately. Someone suggested that a few of you experts get together & come up with a WIKI that can be referenced by all the members with easy to use measurements for all the cures wet & dry. The new folks need to have access to good info that follows the USDA guidelines. To me it seems simple. Just follow the instructions on the package of cure you are using.
 
Just need to ask...How long should a turkey cure/pickle for? If it is a long cure, does the brine need to be injected? I have a 10 1/2lb bird brining in Pops brine, for 2 days now, and am just wondering if I have ruined it...
Nope as long as it has stayed 40 or below you are fine. I had 3 in brine for 4 days and they were good. That reminds me I gotta finish up my Great Turkey experiment post with the results. Dang CRS kicking in again.
 
 
heh heh... sorry, showing my age... decode that for all you non-CB'r era folk, that's "ten-four good buddy", i.e. I agree.. lol!
 
LOL...Oh for a return to the days of the 27Mhz cbs'...running from the bears, and being able to drive more than 200 feet without having to stop at traffic lights and roundabouts...

Ok, so the turkey is still good, and I was hoping that it ws small enough that I didn't need to inject it. Thank you.
 
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