Well Santa came early - received a MES 30 QVC special today. It is outside seasoning right now - didn't do Qview as we have all the seen the shiny insides of the MES. Been reading and studying and can't wait to smoke something. I need lots of practice before Christmas dinner. The old ECB looks so lonely and sad now - it will still get plenty of use when I have time to watch the coals. Thanks for all the knowledge again - you guys and gals are great!