I just went to your profile and saw that drunken chicken, very nice looking, I see all your tarp pics lol, rain is haunting you :( , wings are so good !!!!!, but if you can do wings, you can do anything, you did that chicken, you can do anything, just remember, you can chastise me for saying this if you already know, it will not hurt my feelings :), but you do not have to do all that long curing for the shoulder if you cook it, was just thinking maybe that was what was driving you crazy, just have to brine it and if you have a injector then you are good to go for to the bone tastiness, I have not done a roast yet, or any ham products, but after the Jerky, I do want to get on some Bacon, and by the way, my youngun is 25 so I no longer have that "school" thing to worry about, as much as it was a pain in the butt getting my son ready, the funny part is, I kinda miss it ...................I know ..................I am not right LOL, but I do miss it sometimes :)