Im pulling my hair out!

Discussion in 'UDS Builds' started by brokenwing, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    This uds has been almost complete for 2 weeks, but the lid mod is kicking my butt.  I could not get a webber, so i found a uniflame on craiglsit.  I cut the flange off, put some stove gasket around it and cemented it in place with the cement provided.  When i go to bolt the darn thing up, i get a gap in some places.  Could i use automotive high temp rtv selaent to fill the gaps. Dont want to take out the family

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  2. jirodriguez

    jirodriguez Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I know a lot of folks use the high temp stuff they sell at fireplace stores for attaching the door gaskets.
     
  3. pit 4 brains

    pit 4 brains Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Is the drum out of round? I had to lay mine down and do a little shaping to get the top back into shape..
     
  4. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    no its just that lid is has a smaller diamter then the barell about a 1/4 inch i filled it in nicely with stove gasket but still have a little space
     
  5. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Don't worry about a little leak. Ever ride a harley? [​IMG]  Just get the TBS working. A leak wont make or break ya.
     
  6. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    lmao maneater, i was just worried that i would have trouble controlling my temps. 
     
  7. tom37

    tom37 Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    The high temp RTV will be plenty safe unless you try to grill with the lid off and make 4 foot jet engine flames like I did a while back.

    I have had good luck with using blue paint tape over the RTV to shape it the way I like, then let it dry good and peal the tape off.
     
  8. rbranstner

    rbranstner Smoking Guru OTBS Member


    Depending on how big the opening is you could have some issues with temps but if it isn't that big you shouldn't have to many issues. You may have to close up your air intakes a bit.
     
  9. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    Alright bustedthing, sounds like ya might. Just don't get to hot.
     
     
  10. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    busted thing? thats broken wing rofl.  Im gonna run up to ace and get some stove gasket cement to fill in the opening fire it up and make a fatty i will have pictures within the next few days, and report on how this baby does.
     
  11. tom37

    tom37 Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Not sure how far along you are with the fix, but there is a definite difference between stove cement and the RTV silicon. I have not personally used the cement but my buddies say that they have not had much luck with it sticking to bare steel. It does set up rather hard like cement.

    Good luck and let us know what happens.
     
  12. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    Hey tom ya i have not had a chance to work much on it, been busy.  I went up to ace hardware and got some rutland stove cement.  I will let you know how it goes. I was trying to decide between that and rtv sealent, I will let you know how it goes.
     
  13. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    OK update I'm def a carpenter but when it comes to metal work, fail lol.  I bolted the kettle lid mod in place, and lit it off for a test run.  I tried it with out putting cement around the few gaps I had cause it looked like the lid had a decent fit.  Lit it off, and seasoned it, with the temps reaching 330 degrees.  Then I started to back it off.  With one ball valve, and one nipple cap off i could still not hold a temp.  I was struggling to keep 200 degrees.  So two thoughts come to mind.  One the gap and some bolt holes in the lid is causing me to lose to much heat, or second of all I'm not building the fire correctly since I'm a newb to charcoal.  I filled the basket, lit 8 coals and put it in the center, and let her go.  This evening all my coals on the outside were unburned.  So either i try to fix the problem, or I'm going to remove the lid mod, weld the holes shut and go to a flat lid.  I'm so irritated.
     
  14. tom37

    tom37 Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I am guessing you are using briquettes?

    How large is the basket?  Around and tall?

    How far off the bottom of the drum is it?

    If the gap around the lid is not giant it would probably be all right. You may just have to close the lid vent a tiny bit.

    When I light my drums, which one has a 16" by 12" tall basket and the other is only 6" tall. I fill um up and use the weed burner to light one side of the lump coal.

    It really sounds like you have a problem with the basket and the coals more so then air sneaking in the lid.

    When I light mine I let the temp hit 180 and close one of the two caps. 200 and I close the second cap. If the temp does not rise to 225 then I close the ball valve a tiny bit and take one of the caps back off. Actually one cap off is more airflow then one ball valve open. I did scroll and look at the pic in the first post but its hard to see. Any chance you can post us a few more pics so we can see what you are working with?

    Don't give up.

    We have the technology to help ya fix it.
     
  15. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

  16. tom37

    tom37 Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    3" should be good for height and the basket size looks good.

    I think before I worked on it to much I would try a load of lump. There is as many of us that light one side vs others that light and load li coals into the cente of the coals.

    Maybe try to light it and let it go with the valves all open until 180 then cap one and close the ball valve and see where it settles in with only one cap off.

    Remember that it does not take to much movement witht he ball valve to change the temps.
     
  17. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    BT ya got any pics yet?
     
     
  18. brokenwing

    brokenwing Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    Well I played around today.  I sealed up the space with rutland stove cement, let it cure and fired it off.  Still playing with the dampers.  I was having trouble holding it below 250.  It would jump between 250 and 265.  But it burned for 6 hours at those temps with a quarter of the basket full.  I still have it burning its at 186 degrees, and dying.  So I still have to keep playing with it to get it figured out.  I have used a bag of kingsford almost just playing with it.  Im not giving up yet.
     
  19. smokingohiobutcher

    smokingohiobutcher Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Dont worry too much about the extra coal youre using now...after you get the drum ( and yourself) dialed in it will be one of your favorite smokers!

    I GAURONTEEEEEE IT!!!

    Later

    SOB
     

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