Took me first shot a making dogs because I was making sausage and had some leftover beef. Long story short; They came out dry and firm. More like Summer Sausage than hot dogs. I used top round beef, which was pretty lean. Taste good, pretty to look at. But mouthfeel was bad for me. Question: Too little fat? Too long cooking (pulled them at 160Â°) Ingredients: 2 1/2 pounds beef 1/2 cup ice water 22 grams (1 Tbs.) salt 20 gram (1/4 cup) skim dry milk 7 1/2 gram (2 1/2 tsp.) garlic powder 5 gram (2 tsp.) paprika, mild 3 gram (1/2 tsp) cure #1 1 1/4 gram (1tsp.) white pepper 1 gram (1/2 tsp.) coriander 1 gram (1 tsp.) mace 3/4 gram (1/2 tsp.) ginger Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks!