Hi new guy from PA with a problem already

Discussion in 'Roll Call' started by jbest123, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. jbest123

    jbest123 Fire Starter

    My name is John and I just got my smoker finished. As soon as the weather permits I will fire that sucker up. After seeing some of the beautiful photos here I know I'm going to have a problem. My wife refuses to eat pink meat let alone red meat. Can I simply add to the smoking time? If so how much do you suggest or is there something else I can do? Other than getting a new wife.[​IMG]   John 
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2011
  2. danmcg

    danmcg Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I'm not sure I understand your question John, but you can cook/smoke your meat to any doneness you like just as you would on the grill or in the oven. If you're talking the pink smoke ring that developes in a peice of smoked meat that's a different story but doesn't have anything to do with doneness but with a reaction of the smoke with the meat.

    Welcome to the forums, I was checkin out your smoker, looks like a winner to me!
     
  3. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Welcome John,

    I'm John from PA too, but you can call me Bear.

    Dan about covered it, but the only thing I can add is--If it is the Smoke Ring "pink", most guys strive to get that, and we Watt Burners don't get a smoke ring, so if you use a Watt burner, you won't have to worry about that darn old "scary" Smoke Ring.

    Must be the water in PA---My wife would rather eat Pork from the crock pot. I think she thinks smoked meat makes you crazy, because of what it does to me????

    We seem to be getting a lot of good ole PA smokers lately,

    Bear
     
  4. jbest123

    jbest123 Fire Starter

    I think she understands the pink smoke ring, its the center of the larger cuts.  John
     
  5. beer-b-q

    beer-b-q Smoking Guru OTBS Member

     

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  6. alblancher

    alblancher Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    John,

    Adding to your smoke time shouldn't do anything but further develop the smoke ring.  The smoke ring is developed by the same chemical reaction that gives you pink meat when curing with Nitrites.  In the case of smoke the reaction is driven by the nitrogen oxide generated by burning wood.

    If you can't explain the chemistry to her try showing her the temperature of your smoked meat and the temperature of the meat taken out of a slow oven.  They will be same.

    Another idea is to gradually get her used to smoked meats.  If you do pulled pork, take hers, throw it in the fry pan a second with a bit of sauce and then throw it on the bun.  She sees the meat being cooked in a fry pan.  Same idea with chicken, pop it in the microwave for a minute or in the oven to "cook it for her".  Ribs can be sauced and finished in the oven.  Eventually she will either develop a taste for the meat directly off the smoker or she will be happy eating her meals after you "properly" prepare them for her.  Either way you still get to enjoy your hobby and make your wife happy at the same time.  I would call that a "win win" solution!

    You can fight it or you can use her preconceived ideas to solve the problem.

    Good Luck,  Sounds like fun.

    Al
     
  7. alblancher

    alblancher Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member

    Just read you second post. 

    Remember we suggest that you cook to temperature.  I will not eat chicken red at the bone and I do not like rare pork.  It the food is cooked to the proper temps and you are cooking to med to med well there should not be any red in the center of the meat.  If you like med rare beef or rare beef and your wife doesn't its another problem that doesn't have anything to do with smoking.

    Throw it on the grill for her!

    Al
     
  8. bob1961

    bob1961 Smoking Fanatic

    welcome from another PA guy from the northeast part of the state....
    that's is the best part of the meat when it's done just right........bob

    ....
     
  9. ol' smokey

    ol' smokey Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

  10. Welcome!!!! From a fellow PA dweller. I'm sure you can change her mind when she starts smelling the Q. And if not, that just means more for you.[​IMG]
     
  11. rbranstner

    rbranstner Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Sounds like you wife isn't worried about the pink smoke ring its the pink meat in the center of the meat so in other words she likes the meat to be done med/well or something around there. Well if you are smoking ribs, pork butts for pulled pork, brisket, chicken, meatloaf I could go on and on you won't have to worry about that at all because those meats are taken to a higher internal temp and there isn't any pinkness left in the meat except for any smoke ring you may have. When you are doing pulled pork or brisket you are taking the internal temp to around 195-205 depending on if you are pulling or slicing the meat so there is not chance there will be any pink. The kinds of meat you will have to watch out for would be if you are making any kind of roast such has a prime rib or roast beef for slicing, lamb, wild game. These cuts are usually taken to a lower internal temp say around 130-140 to keep them pink in the center. If you can't get your wife to eat it pink then you just take it to a little higher internal temp and the pink will be gone. What ever you guys like is what you should do. Just because I don't want a prime rib that isn't pink in the middle doesn't meat that you can't make yours so it isn't pink. Start her out with some ribs, pork butts for pulled pork and brisket and ease her into loved smoked meat as those meats won't have any pink in them. Good luck.
     
  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    As for the pink center---Exactly what "Rbrantsner" said.

    Plus if you make Prime rib like many of us do---225˚ for however long it takes to get it to 130˚ or 140˚, the whole inside is pink.

    If you use a higher heat in your smoker until the center is 130˚ or 140˚, the ends of the roast, and the outer part of each slice will not be pink, so you could give her  an "End" slice, and I'm sure she'll be happy.

    Bear
     
  13. smokinal

    smokinal Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Ditto to what Bear & Rbrantsner said.
     
  14. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    I say smoke away and get some good therms to show your honey that it's cooked to temp. [​IMG]
     
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    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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  16. xjcamaro

    xjcamaro Meat Mopper

    Wecome aboard Pennsylvanian, where about are you at in PA? Seems like the majority on here come from the east side except a few including me from the west.
     
  17. jbest123

    jbest123 Fire Starter

    Lower Burrell about 30 mi up the river from PGH.  John
     
  18. xjcamaro

    xjcamaro Meat Mopper

    I know exactly where your at. Im just a bit north of you in New Castle.
     
  19. richoso1

    richoso1 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    John, I know exactly how you feel, my wife takes the same position on meat that has been smoked/grilled/baked, you name it. Going for a higher internal temp will help you out, without ruining the Q. It's all good my friend. 
     

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