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texasgal81

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Northlake, TX
Hey y’all! I’ve been away a while but still smoking meat often. I decided to try smoking a turkey for the first time mostly because Kroger had them $.38 a lb!! I paid around $4 for an 11+ pounder!! :D I have a vertical masterbuilt electric smoker w/bluetooth. Any tips would be helpful! Do you brine?(any recipes and/or tips, esp when to start), do you inject?, 275 degrees ok? (That’s the high on mine), favorite wood for turkey? (Usually use hickory). I will prob start late weds night or early Thurs morning. Anything would be great! Thanks! :)
 
Juicy Smoke-tastic Chicken and Turkey

Here is a Brine and Rub that is a Favorite with members of my Family. I like Apple and/or Hickory with Chicken or Turkey. We determine doneness by measuring the Internal Temp (IT) in the thickest part of the Breast and Thigh, 165* and 175*F respectively. For a One Step Smoke with Crispy Skin the birds have to be smoked at a temp of 300-325°F. You can figure about 15 minutes per pound to reach the desired IT. Electric smokers usually only go to 275°F. With these you will be smoking at the most common temp range of 225-275°F. You can figure on about 30 minutes per pound cook time at 250 degrees, + or - 5 minutes depending what part of the range you choose. Usually the skin will not crisp so if the skin is not Crisp enough when the IT is 145*F in the Breast, put the Bird in a 425*F Oven to finish cooking to 165* and Crisp the Skin...JJ

Families Favorite Brine

1/2C Kosher Salt

2T Paprika

2T Gran. Garlic

2T Gran. Onion

2T Dry Thyme

2T Black Pepper

1C Vinegar (Any)

1-11/2Gal Cold Water to cover Chix

1/2C Brown Sugar, Optional

1T Red Pepper Flake Optional

Mix well and Soak the Bird over night or up to 24 Hours.

Remove the Chix, rinse if desired and pat dry with paper towels.

Place in an open container in the refrigerator overnight or up to 24 hours for the Skin to dry.

This will give a crispier skin when Smokng or Roasting...

Bubba Chix Rub

1/2C Raw Sugar

2T Paprika (I use Smoked if I'm just Grilling)

1T Cayenne

1T Gran. Garlic

1T Gran. Onion

1tsp Black Pepper

1tsp Wht Pepper

1tsp Allspice

1tsp Bell's Poultry Seasoning or Thyme

Mix well. You can put directly on the skin or mix with Butter, Oil or Bacon Grease and rub on and under the Skin.

Reduce Cayenne to 1 teaspoon if less heat is desired. Add 1T Kosher Salt if the bird is not Brined.

Mild but Wild Turkey Rub

1/4C Raw Sugar

2T Paprika (I use Smoked if I'm just Grilling)

1T Gran. Garlic

1T Gran. Onion

2tsp Bell's Poultry Seasoning or other

1tsp Ground Coriander Seed (2-3tsp Whole seed, fresh ground)

1tsp Black Pepper

1tsp Mustard Powder

1tsp Allspice

1/2tsp Cumin

Optional: 1T Kosher Salt * Leave out if you Brined the Bird!

Mix well. You can put directly on the skin or mix with Butter, Oil or Bacon Grease and rub on and under the Skin.

Place a pan with some veggies under the Turkey to make some Gravy. Here's a recipe.

Smokey Turkey Gravy

1- Lg Onion,

4-5 Carrots,

3-4 Ribs Celery

3-4 Peeled Cloves of Garlic

Toss them in a pan under the Turkey, and let the whole deal Smoke for one hour,

THEN add 4-6 Cups Chicken Broth,

1/2tsp Dry Thyme (4-5 sprigs Fresh)

1/2tsp Dry Sage (2 sprigs Fresh)

1-2 ea Bayleaf

Finish the Smoking process to the IT you want.

While the Turkey is resting, dump the pan juices, veggies and all into a 2-3Qt Sauce pot and bring the Jus to a boil, lower the heat and simmer 20-30 minutes. Strain out the veggies and let the Jus rest a minute or so for the Fat to rise. Skim off the bulk of the fat then using strips of paper towel laid on top of the Jus then quickly removed, take off the last little bit of fat.Bring the Jus back to a simmer. Mix 2T Flour and 4T Chicken Broth for each Cup of defatted Jus. Whisk together to make a Slurry with no lumps, add a little additional Broth if needed. Whisk the Slurry into the simmering Jus, bring back to a simmer and cook 5-10 minutes to cook out the flour taste and fully thicken the Gravy. Adjust the seasoning with Salt and Pepper and serve.

The purpose of Smoking the Vegetable for 1 hour before adding the Broth and Herbs is...The Smoked vegetables Roast in the Dry heat concentrating their Flavors and Sweetness giving the finished Jus a Richer, Deeper, Full Flavor.

Serve the sliced Turkey with plenty of Gravy and Enjoy...JJ

Sage and Herb Sausage Dressing

2 1/2Lbs Bread, 2 of the large sliced sandwwich loaves.

4C Chicken Broth

1Stk Butter

1 1/2Lbs Breakfast or Country Sausage, 2 Rolls Jimmy Dean is good.

2C Diced Onion, 1Lrg.

2C Diced Celery, 4 big Ribs.

2T Minced Fresh Sage Leaves, small bunch. (1T Dry Sage, rubbed)

1T Fresh Thyme Leaves, 6-8 sprigs. (1tsp Dry Thyme, rubbed)

1T Fresh Rosemary Leaves, Minced (1tsp Dry Rosemary, rubbed)

Salt and Pepper To Taste.

Melt the Butter in a 2Qt Pot. Add the Sausage and brown, breaking up into marble sized chunks.

Add the Onion and Cerlery and saute until tender.

Add the Herbs and saute until fragrant,2-3 minutes.

Add the Chcken Broth bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer, 15-20 minutes.

Using a Serrated Knife, cut the bread into 3/4 inch Cubes and place in a large bowl.

Here is where I break with tradition, because my family likes moist dense Dressing as if it came out of the Bird...

Pour the Broth mixture over the bread and mix well.

Pour the Dressing mix in a greased 9 X 13 baking Dish.

Bake at 350°F for 1 hour until hot and top is Brown and Crunchy.

Note: For a lighter Dressing, Dry the Bread Cubes in a 275°F Oven, spread on cookie sheets, toss frequently. To bake, cover the baking dish with foil and bake 30 minutes, Uncover and bake 30 minutes more to Crisp and Brown the top...

Sweet Potato Casserole with Pecan Crumble

3Lb Sweet Potatoes

1/2C Brown Sugar

1/4C Maple Syrup

1/2C Melted Butter

2ea Eggs

1/4C Heavy Cream

1tsp Vanilla

1/2tsp Cinnamon

1/2tsp Nutmeg

1" Fresh Ginger, grated

Topping

!C Brown Sugar

1C Flour

1/2C Melted Butter

1/2C Chopped Pecans

1 1/2tsp Cinnamon

1" Fresh Ginger, grated

Bake sweet potatoes at 425°F until soft, 1 to 1.5 hours.

Cool 30 minutes on the counter. Peel and mash lightly.

Mix all filling ingredients and spread in a buttered 1 1/2 Qt baking dish.

Combine Topping ingredients in a bowl and toss with a fork until Pea sized crumbs form.

Top the potatoes and bake a 350°F for 30 minutes. This is good hot or cold.
 
Couple things to help get the skin crisper

1. Spatchcock the bird. It will help the bird cook evenly and the spread out surface area will help the skin.

2. Air dry the bird. 8-24 hours uncovered in the fridge. This should be done even if you wet brine. Once again after brining.

I dry brine my birds. Prior to the air dry I mix up 2 tablespoons baking powder with 6 tablespoons (1/2 cup) kosher salt. Liberally sprinkle the mixture on all surfaces of the bird. Depending on the size of the bird you may not use all of the mixture.

Add any dry seasonings you want at this time. Then into the fridge to dry.

For smoke I like a 50/50 mix of cherry and pecan. Apple is another good choice.

If you can crank the temp of your smoker up to 325-350. If not smoke the bird until the IT reads 150 in the breast. Remove and place in a 350 oven to finish. Pull the bird when the IT reaches 160-165. Rest 30-45 minutes. Carve and serve.
 
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Did this bone in breast on my Weber. Search for roadside brine. This one I injected. 1/4c butter, 1/2c homemade chicken broth , 1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice. Rub with EVO or butter, light pepper. Smoked at 275, cherry chunks, then finish in oven 300. 165F IT, foil wrap good 30 min rest.

Best wishes,

RG
 

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So many ways for good smoked bird. Nice deal BTW, my Kroger's was .49/lb...

I will let you search for the specifics but my bird this year:
Cut bird into halves. Spatchcock first then halve. I find easier all around to handle, submerge in brine, take out of smoker, serve, etc. Each half on it's own rack.
1G brine in 5G SS pot of Pop's brine, injected into deep areas, cover and wet brine 3-5 days
Rinse, dry, and develop pellicle for a few hours with fan prior to smoke
Apple wood 250-275F for 5-6 hours
Pull @ 165F IT

The above yields what I would call an old school smoked turkey but I always envisioned Texas style smoke turkey to be brined AND rubbed so I would suggest Pops LO salt brine and Jeff's Rub or other if that's what you are after. Hickory is a good choice since turkey is delicate and oak or mesquite would be a bit over the top. Perfect for beef tho. Some southern folks swear by pecan too.

Best of luck!
 
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I do a LOT of whole turkeys and turkey breasts (maybe 15 per year) as I keep an eye on my weight. You really can't go wrong with any method. Depends on your energy level I guess.

I mostly use a brine (recipe below) or when I am lazy I just use a SPG for a rub and no brine.

To get the crispy skin, I usually pop it in the oven at 425 for about 5-7 minutes (you can see the skin sizzle).

My brine recipe is super easy:
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/54614/turkey-brine/
Boom - this works great. 857 review and still 5 star rated.

I use an MES40
I looked at some old records and at 275F, a 14.8 pound whole turket took 10 hours to get to 160F...then I popped it in the oven for 5-7 minutes for the skin crisping. I also had a 14.5 pound whole turkey at 275F get done in 7.75 hours. Your results may vary haha
 
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Thanks so much for all your help guys! I really appreciate it! I will probably not spatchcock it, but I will definitely take a look a Chef ‘s brine and some of the other things. And thanks for the tips to finish in the oven for crispy skin!
 
Thanks for all the info JJ! Quick question on brining - do you do it when the turkey is frozen, partly thawed, or completely thawed? All your recipes look great!

Juicy Smoke-tastic Chicken and Turkey

Here is a Brine and Rub that is a Favorite with members of my Family. I like Apple and/or Hickory with Chicken or Turkey. We determine doneness by measuring the Internal Temp (IT) in the thickest part of the Breast and Thigh, 165* and 175*F respectively. For a One Step Smoke with Crispy Skin the birds have to be smoked at a temp of 300-325°F. You can figure about 15 minutes per pound to reach the desired IT. Electric smokers usually only go to 275°F. With these you will be smoking at the most common temp range of 225-275°F. You can figure on about 30 minutes per pound cook time at 250 degrees, + or - 5 minutes depending what part of the range you choose. Usually the skin will not crisp so if the skin is not Crisp enough when the IT is 145*F in the Breast, put the Bird in a 425*F Oven to finish cooking to 165* and Crisp the Skin...JJ

Families Favorite Brine

1/2C Kosher Salt

2T Paprika

2T Gran. Garlic

2T Gran. Onion

2T Dry Thyme

2T Black Pepper

1C Vinegar (Any)

1-11/2Gal Cold Water to cover Chix

1/2C Brown Sugar, Optional

1T Red Pepper Flake Optional

Mix well and Soak the Bird over night or up to 24 Hours.

Remove the Chix, rinse if desired and pat dry with paper towels.

Place in an open container in the refrigerator overnight or up to 24 hours for the Skin to dry.

This will give a crispier skin when Smokng or Roasting...

Bubba Chix Rub

1/2C Raw Sugar

2T Paprika (I use Smoked if I'm just Grilling)

1T Cayenne

1T Gran. Garlic

1T Gran. Onion

1tsp Black Pepper

1tsp Wht Pepper

1tsp Allspice

1tsp Bell's Poultry Seasoning or Thyme

Mix well. You can put directly on the skin or mix with Butter, Oil or Bacon Grease and rub on and under the Skin.

Reduce Cayenne to 1 teaspoon if less heat is desired. Add 1T Kosher Salt if the bird is not Brined.

Mild but Wild Turkey Rub

1/4C Raw Sugar

2T Paprika (I use Smoked if I'm just Grilling)

1T Gran. Garlic

1T Gran. Onion

2tsp Bell's Poultry Seasoning or other

1tsp Ground Coriander Seed (2-3tsp Whole seed, fresh ground)

1tsp Black Pepper

1tsp Mustard Powder

1tsp Allspice

1/2tsp Cumin

Optional: 1T Kosher Salt * Leave out if you Brined the Bird!

Mix well. You can put directly on the skin or mix with Butter, Oil or Bacon Grease and rub on and under the Skin.

Place a pan with some veggies under the Turkey to make some Gravy. Here's a recipe.

Smokey Turkey Gravy

1- Lg Onion,

4-5 Carrots,

3-4 Ribs Celery

3-4 Peeled Cloves of Garlic

Toss them in a pan under the Turkey, and let the whole deal Smoke for one hour,

THEN add 4-6 Cups Chicken Broth,

1/2tsp Dry Thyme (4-5 sprigs Fresh)

1/2tsp Dry Sage (2 sprigs Fresh)

1-2 ea Bayleaf

Finish the Smoking process to the IT you want.

While the Turkey is resting, dump the pan juices, veggies and all into a 2-3Qt Sauce pot and bring the Jus to a boil, lower the heat and simmer 20-30 minutes. Strain out the veggies and let the Jus rest a minute or so for the Fat to rise. Skim off the bulk of the fat then using strips of paper towel laid on top of the Jus then quickly removed, take off the last little bit of fat.Bring the Jus back to a simmer. Mix 2T Flour and 4T Chicken Broth for each Cup of defatted Jus. Whisk together to make a Slurry with no lumps, add a little additional Broth if needed. Whisk the Slurry into the simmering Jus, bring back to a simmer and cook 5-10 minutes to cook out the flour taste and fully thicken the Gravy. Adjust the seasoning with Salt and Pepper and serve.

The purpose of Smoking the Vegetable for 1 hour before adding the Broth and Herbs is...The Smoked vegetables Roast in the Dry heat concentrating their Flavors and Sweetness giving the finished Jus a Richer, Deeper, Full Flavor.

Serve the sliced Turkey with plenty of Gravy and Enjoy...JJ

Sage and Herb Sausage Dressing

2 1/2Lbs Bread, 2 of the large sliced sandwwich loaves.

4C Chicken Broth

1Stk Butter

1 1/2Lbs Breakfast or Country Sausage, 2 Rolls Jimmy Dean is good.

2C Diced Onion, 1Lrg.

2C Diced Celery, 4 big Ribs.

2T Minced Fresh Sage Leaves, small bunch. (1T Dry Sage, rubbed)

1T Fresh Thyme Leaves, 6-8 sprigs. (1tsp Dry Thyme, rubbed)

1T Fresh Rosemary Leaves, Minced (1tsp Dry Rosemary, rubbed)

Salt and Pepper To Taste.

Melt the Butter in a 2Qt Pot. Add the Sausage and brown, breaking up into marble sized chunks.

Add the Onion and Cerlery and saute until tender.

Add the Herbs and saute until fragrant,2-3 minutes.

Add the Chcken Broth bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer, 15-20 minutes.

Using a Serrated Knife, cut the bread into 3/4 inch Cubes and place in a large bowl.

Here is where I break with tradition, because my family likes moist dense Dressing as if it came out of the Bird...

Pour the Broth mixture over the bread and mix well.

Pour the Dressing mix in a greased 9 X 13 baking Dish.

Bake at 350°F for 1 hour until hot and top is Brown and Crunchy.

Note: For a lighter Dressing, Dry the Bread Cubes in a 275°F Oven, spread on cookie sheets, toss frequently. To bake, cover the baking dish with foil and bake 30 minutes, Uncover and bake 30 minutes more to Crisp and Brown the top...

Sweet Potato Casserole with Pecan Crumble

3Lb Sweet Potatoes

1/2C Brown Sugar

1/4C Maple Syrup

1/2C Melted Butter

2ea Eggs

1/4C Heavy Cream

1tsp Vanilla

1/2tsp Cinnamon

1/2tsp Nutmeg

1" Fresh Ginger, grated

Topping

!C Brown Sugar

1C Flour

1/2C Melted Butter

1/2C Chopped Pecans

1 1/2tsp Cinnamon

1" Fresh Ginger, grated

Bake sweet potatoes at 425°F until soft, 1 to 1.5 hours.

Cool 30 minutes on the counter. Peel and mash lightly.

Mix all filling ingredients and spread in a buttered 1 1/2 Qt baking dish.

Combine Topping ingredients in a bowl and toss with a fork until Pea sized crumbs form.

Top the potatoes and bake a 350°F for 30 minutes. This is good hot or cold.
 
Best to thaw the bird first but if the giblets are still in a frozen cavity, no big deal. The brine will finish the defrosting...JJ
 
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Slaughterhouse Poultry Brine By Tip Piper of Hillbilly Vittles


1 ½ Gal Water
½ C Salt (picklin er kosher)
½ C Dark Brown Sugar
2 tsp Garlic Powder
2 tsp Onion Powder
2 tsp Cajun Spice (Louisiana Cajun Seasoning)
2 tsp Celery Seed
 
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Slaughterhouse Poultry Brine By Tip Piper of Hillbilly Vittles


1 ½ Gal Water
½ C Salt (picklin er kosher)
½ C Dark Brown Sugar
2 tsp Garlic Powder
2 tsp Onion Powder
2 tsp Cajun Spice (Louisiana Cajun Seasoning)
2 tsp Celery Seed


I have heard alot bout this. I still need to try it.
 
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