getting the smoke ring

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ajsmokes, Jul 11, 2015.

  1. ajsmokes

    ajsmokes Meat Mopper

    Quick question for everyone... is it possible to get a good smoke ring inside an electric smoker?
     
  2. No idea, but I would love to know as well!
     
  3. vartz04

    vartz04 Fire Starter

    I have seen on the site that you put one lit charcoal briquette in with your wood chips and that can give you some sort of smoke ring.
     
  4. millerbuilds

    millerbuilds Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I get one with my mine....
     
  5. OK, I've never used an electric smoker but the answer is maybe, but not easily.

    Its not the smoke that creates the smoke ring. Its NO & CO, nitric oxide & carbon dioxide. 

    Wood fires, charcoal fires produce these chemicals.

    Kingsford briquettes has add sodium nitrate which can help produce NO.

    So adding the briquette may do the trick, but personally I find it hard to believe you will get much of a smoke ring.

    See details at: http://amazingribs.com/tips_and_technique/mythbusting_the_smoke_ring.html  
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
  6. ajsmokes

    ajsmokes Meat Mopper

    how do you get a smoke ring in urs?
     
  7. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Basic sentiment seems to be it's not really worth all the trouble to try and fake a smoke ring on an electric. It does nothing for the flavor or texture of the meat. If it matters that much to you to have a smoke ring, just borrow, get or build yourself a cheap charcoal smoker and see if you can tell the difference. My mini produces great smoke rings, but I'm not sure I'd care if it didn't.

    You can always sprinkle tenderquick on the meat before it goes in the smoker. That'll give you a pill ring.
     
  8. ajsmokes

    ajsmokes Meat Mopper

    I'm aware that it's the chemical reaction of wood and charcoal. But putting any kind of charcoal in the smoker is a little difficult to keep safe right?
     
  9. ajsmokes

    ajsmokes Meat Mopper

    I'm not really worried about a smoke ring. But a friend of mine wants to get a smoke ring using his electric smoker
     
  10. Sour Grapes?

    I could see an electric smoke for cold smoking.

    But I can certainly tell the difference between a stick smoked Q and  that done on an electric smoker.

    The smoke ring is like curd meat. So to say the smoke ring is superfluous would be like

    saying there is no difference between an uncured ham and a cured one.  

    BTW sprinkling Tender Quick is a really bad idea. Sodium  nitrite curing agents

    should be used in proper portions and with care. 
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
  11. ajsmokes

    ajsmokes Meat Mopper

    although electric is not conventional it will put out good food. I happen to love my electric.
     
  12. millerbuilds

    millerbuilds Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I use chips, chunks, and dust in my SmokinTex, I assume that some of the dust actually burns.  It is the only electric that I have owned, so I have never experienced no smoke ring from an electric,

    Now, it does not create the 1/4" plus ring that I get from my stick burner.  

    -Smoke ON!
     
  13. mdboatbum

    mdboatbum Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Not sour grapes at all. Electric smokers generally don't produce a smoke ring. The general consensus among those around this forum who use them is that the flavor and texture of the meat is just fine without the smoke ring, and that the effort to fake one is not worth the trouble. I don't use an electric, so it doesn't make a difference one way or the other to me. I was just trying to save the OP the hassle. We're talking about creating a smoke ring in his ELECTRIC SMOKER, so, as you so eloquently pointed out, it won't be a full on 1/4" dark red ring like you'd get burning all wood, so not really worth the effort.
    And thanks for the safety lesson on nitrite cures. The amount of TQ recommended to safely cure meat (1 tablespoon per pound) is considerably more than the "sprinkling" that was often used in comps before the KCBS stopped including the smoke ring in the judging criteria. If the meat is handled in accordance with safe practices for uncured meat, the amount of cure sprinkled in with the rub is considerably less dangerous than the smoke that will be inhaled by the guy running the pit.
     
  14. GaryHibbert

    GaryHibbert Smoking Guru OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I get exactly ZERO smoke on my MES 30.  It would be nice to have one, as it looks great, but to be honest about it, its not very important to me.  I just want to put out good Q and if people complain about the lack of a smoke ring, they don't get invited back.

    Just me saying, and just my two cents worth   [​IMG]

    Gary
     
  15. smokesontuesday

    smokesontuesday Smoking Fanatic

    Smoke ring is just for show anyway. Don't worry about it.
     
  16. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    I took like the look of it but dont really miss it in my MES.  If there was a way to create it though, I would be interested. 
     
  17. mummel

    mummel Master of the Pit

    I took like the look of it but dont really miss it in my MES.  If there was a way to create it though, I would be interested. 
     
  18. mneeley490

    mneeley490 Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I use a mailbox mod on my MES30, and I've gotten a satisfactory (though not huge) smoke ring by using a crushed briquette, sprinkled in my AMNPS. As a side benefit, it also helps keep the pellets going.
     
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  19. ajsmokes

    ajsmokes Meat Mopper

    I don't own a amnps. So if I take a briquette and crush it down a little. And use a small amount with the wood chips would it work or cause chaos?
     

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