Still gathering stuff together but what the heck, lets make some sticks. Made 3 different kinds: Bear's recipe http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/103811/unstuffed-smoked-beef-logs-slightly-hot-bearcarver-qview And Poli's Len's Super Hot Links, http://lpoli.50webs.com/index_files/Hot Links-Len's Super.pdf 5 lbs of each. split the super hot links in half though and added to one half, about 3/4 tsp to 2 1/2 lbs came out about right. Its not pretty but it works. Got me a 5 lb LEM on the way from Bass Pro, got hosed $20 - $30 on the price but they have 'em in stock. No 10mm stuffer tubes until mid April tho. 21mm casings. Ready to go. Work on the size next time. Blooming awhile Finished q-view. I noticed that I was having a tendency to oversuff the casings, will just have to keep practicing!