So I have done about 30-40 pork butts in the MES40. I finally built a UDS and did a test run with some chickens which were pretty darn good. Today I decided to smoke two butts (0.99/lb on base) for my subordinates. Used the new weed burner to start the lump and jack barrel chunks. Had a hard time getting temps up then maintaining for more than 2 hours but that's another post. One probe for my Maverick 733 is fubar'd so I just let it cook. About 7 hrs in I opened lid and checked temps. One was at 162 and other at 185. Since it was getting late evening I decided to toss them in oven to finish (first time ever). They were past the stall so I was good with setting oven at 275. Finished one to 205 and other to 196. Smoke ring was good and flavor was better than in MES. I didn't take pics of before but we all know what raw pork butt looks likes. I added some apple cider vinegar to bottom of pan when i tossed into oven with some rub... Finished product- On the positive side- these two butts only took about 9 hrs total. I was amazed as in the MES I would smoke em for 16+ hrs.