First Brisket Successful But...

Discussion in 'Beef' started by desiredusername, May 24, 2016.

  1. So I did my first brisket on the weekend and it turned out better than I had hoped but there were some hiccups along the way and I've got some questions to help improve the next (although everyone loved this one [​IMG])  Here's the thread from the smoke: http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/246688/first-brisket-wish-me-luck

    Before I get into the questions, I just want to thank everyone who gave me advice when I was getting ready for the smoke.  You are a wealth of knowledge and I'm glad I've found you!

    First question:  I separated the point from the flat and was disappointed by how small the flat was.  Is it common for the flat to be significantly smaller than the point?  Got it from a reputable butcher.

    Second... I had a 30* rise in IT in an hour and a half (160* to 190*) with no stall.  When it happened I had just panned it and foiled it and had added about 8 ounces of beer to the mix.  Is a quick rise with no stall the result of the bath and foil tent or did I get lucky there?

    Third... This was only the second smoke with my WSM (second ever actually).  For the most part I was able to keep temps steady but it would slowly stray up or down and so I'd make slight vent adjustments here and there to keep it in the range I wanted.  I read everywhere that these things are "set it and forget it".  I'm I having to make adjustments because it isn't seasoned enough?  The first smoke I used lump charcoal and the second I used briquettes because I read that they are more consistent then lump.

    Last... I tried to make Burnt Ends and they were fantastic tasting but super moist.  I was expecting them to be tougher (harder) almost like a jerky nugget or something like that.  Basically I cubed a part of the point, coated with a KC Rub then tossed in Uncle Dougie's Sweet and Snappy BBQ sauce.  Then foiled and threw the whole mess on the smoker for about two hours.  They were super tasty but, like I said, just not what I had expected.  Any tips on improving the texture of these for next time?

    Thanks for all your help!
     
  2. jirod

    jirod Smoke Blower

    Every brisket will be a little different, but in the few I've separated myself the point is usually only about 1/3 or a little more of the total packer.  I think it tends to be thicker than the flat, but seems to run about half (or a little more) of the total length of the packer.

    As far as burnt ends, those sound perfect to me.  The best ones I've had and made myself look like little jerky nuggets, but are still very juicy and tender.  So to me you did them perferct, but that is just me.  Can leave them uncovered (I do) and they may firm up a little bit more.  There are people who have done way more than I have, and can probably give you more advise.  But again to me those sound about perfect.
     
  3. seenred

    seenred Smoking Guru Group Lead OTBS Member

    Hope that helps...happy smoking!  [​IMG]

    Red
     
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  4. So I wonder if, being that this is the first time I've ever even looked at a brisket, I got the two confused?  My brisket had one side with hardly any fat on it and the opposite had a thick layer of fat covering it.  The part that was directly connected to the fat is the point right?  If that's the case it was double the size of the flat.  lol I may have done this completely backwards [​IMG]

    Here's a pic with rub before it hit the smoker... I outlined the part I thought was the flat. Fat side is on the bottom.  

    Thanks for the tip about keeping the burnt ends uncovered... makes sense, will do that next time!  Having a burnt end sandwich for lunch today.
     
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  5. seenred

    seenred Smoking Guru Group Lead OTBS Member

    Not positive from just the one pic, but I don't think that's a whole packer.  Its common to buy a brisket flat that's already been separated from the point, and I believe that's what you had there.

    There are plenty of good videos on Youtube about briskets...from trimming, to rubs, to smoking, to slicing.  Here's a good one that might help you:



    You can search briskets on youtube and get lots of good videos to help make your next cook go better...

    Red
     
  6. jirod

    jirod Smoke Blower

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  7. BBQ with Franklin on YouTube. A lot of BBQ tips from a guy that will soon be a legend if not already in Texas.
    There's a reason people stand in line outside in the Texas heat for hours to get his BBQ.
     
  8. Hey Red...There were two distinct parts to it separated by a thick line of fat so I suspect the flat might have been larger if it had been left whole.  In fact, it looked exactly like the picture below (thanks jirod for the link :) )


    That Malcolm Reed video was one of the best I've seen.  Subscribed to the channel too.  I think I may try his method next time and go with a whole packer.

    TexasGrey... Thanks for the tip on BBQ with Franklin.  Very informative.  You guys are awesome.  Looks like my brisket just had a smaller flat.  lol just glad my wife wasn't judging size [​IMG]
     
  9. Holy crap!  Thanks Red!  That was a lot of good info!  You replied while I was replying to some of the other comments.
    That's exactly where I separated.  Should have taken a picture of both after separating but was anxious to get them back in the smoker.
     
  10. seenred

    seenred Smoking Guru Group Lead OTBS Member

    OK...that's a better view.  Must have been a packer...just looks like it was on the smallish side.  I'd say you're right...it just had a smaller flat.

    I'm a subscriber to Malcolm Reed too!  He puts out some very informative and easy to follow vids on smoking all kinds of meats.

    Red
     
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