Does the pork butt plus the picnic equal the pork shoulder?

Discussion in 'Meat Selection and Processing' started by daniels, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. I'm new here and still trying to figure things out.  I hope this is the place to ask.

  2. solaryellow

    solaryellow Limited Mod Group Lead

    Yes, the boston butt plus the picnic is a whole shoulder.
  3. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    a picnic is the shoulder and arm. It usually comes with a layer of skin. As solar said a whole shoulder includes the butt


    I got this off the web

    The first, and probably most common, is Boston butt. Boston butt comes from high on the hog, above the shoulder blade, and has lots of juicy, marbled fat. This is probably what most people buy when they purchase pork shoulder in a grocery store. It's a versatile piece of meat that you can just as easily roast or braise. For home cooks, it's also very inexpensive.

    Below the butt is the pork shoulder. This cut includes most of the hog's front leg quarter. Because the leg muscles work a lot more than the back, the meat is a little tougher here than the butt, thus requiring a bit more time to coax out tenderness.
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  4. shoneyboy

    shoneyboy Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Nice Pig.......
  5. I've talked with a couple of butchers and they said that the term Boston Butt is a regional name that's not used in my area but when I asked them about the pork shoulders they were selling and how they compare to Boston Butt they said they're the same thing.  But you're (boykjo) saying the pork shoulder is below the butt.  I thought the picnic was below the butt.

    I'm sort of confused here.  What am I missing?
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  6. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    The butt Is apart of the shoulder

    Here's a better diagram

  7. Okay.  Below the butt is the picnic shoulder not the pork shoulder.  That would make sense.

    Thanks for the diagrams and explanation.
  8. boykjo

    boykjo Sausage maker Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member

    Yep.................. Usually the lower part of the shoulder is called a pork picnic and the upper part is called a butt or pork shoulder.

  9. venture

    venture Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    With a little study, you will readily recognize them.

    In my area the butt is usually called pork butt or a Boston butt or shoulder butt roast. The different terminology would be confusing, but you will soon be able to identify them by sight.

    Good luck and good smoking.
  10. the boston butt looks like a square hunk with a layer of fat, a picnic shoulder resembles a bone in ham

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