Cold Smoked Coho Salmon

[atomicsmoke]

OK fellows. I can pointlessly argue on my own thread but if you want to do it please start your own.

 

[gr0uch0]

 
Alaska and Lake michigan are two absolutely didn't bodies of water and Salmon species! Isn't Lake michigan fresh water and the largest body of land locked fresh water in the world? 

  The Alaska Salmon I speak of are apples and oranges to yours, Salt water. 

You've yet to cite any source, including what atomic had asked you to do earlier.  Here, let me show you how it's done:

http://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/pr/species/fish/coho-salmon.html

There you go, sport.  This is only one of many recitations that show the coho--regardless of location--is a 3 year fish.  In this instance, it cites that it migrates back from a marine environment into a freshwater environment to spawn and die--after 3 years.  Let's see some data, 416.

 

[416bigbore]

 
Alaskan salmon reach sexual maturity and can stay at sea from 2 to 7 years, although this varies by species. For example,

• Chinook: mature after 3-7 years
• Sockeye: mature after 4-5 years
• Chum: mature after 3-5 years
• Pink: mature at 2 years
• Coho: mature at 3-4 years

I am not seeing King Salmon on that list? The Daddy of all Salmons. 

There has been documentation of tagged King Salmon going up the Kenai River in Alaska, Spawning and returning back into the Ocean! Now how does that work?

 I guess those fish didn't NOT get big for a reason? 

 

 

[gr0uch0]

 
I am not seeing King Salmon on that list? The Daddy of all Salmons. 

There has been documentation of tagged King Salmon going up the Kenai River in Alaska, Spawning and returning back into the Ocean! Now how does that work?

 I guess those fish didn't NOT get big for a reason? 

 

Oh.  My.  Goodness.

FYI, a King is a Chinook.  But, please, do carry on, as this gets more amusing by the minute....

 

[gr0uch0]

OK fellows. I can pointlessly argue on my own thread but if you want to do it please start your own.

My apology for the hijack, atomic:  I'll leave this thread with you.  It is apparent facts are irrelevant to some who cannot even cite their sources.  Again, apologies.

 

[atomicsmoke]

No worries. The thread was already out in the sticks before you joined.

 

[416bigbore]

 
Oh.  My.  Goodness.

FYI, a King is a Chinook.  But, please, do carry on, as this gets more amusing by the minute....

Thread post reads Coho Salmon. 

 

[dirtsailor2003]

Are we going to smoke fish in this thread or argue about salmon?

GEEZ!

What type of smoke are you going to use? Or are you afraid to mention it just in case it's not the best old growth alder???

 

[atomicsmoke]

Dirt,

Alder , so no risk there:-). But I have few days before I reach that stat stage.

 

[416bigbore]

Dirt,

Alder , so no risk there:-). But I have few days before I reach that stat stage.

Is Alder Native where you are at? 

 

[atomicsmoke]

Is Alder Native where you are at? 

There is some native alder in this province. But I am using pellets from amazn.

 

[416bigbore]

OK I just didn't know how far Alder grew South, So that's why I asked and didn't know if it was plentiful or not for you? 

 

[atomicsmoke]

I see alder when we go for a walk in the woods. But I don't think is the same as the one out west.

 

[416bigbore]

I would be willing to guess that your local conservationist would be able to tell you more about it and if it's ok to Smoke with?

  I am used to Oak and Ash wood here in ND as our hardwood for smoking. When I went to Ak and was told Alder was there hardwood of choice, for me it was more of a softer cotton wood type wood. It seemed to work ok and I had no issues with it. Something different was all. 

 

[SmokinAl]

All I can add is I'm looking forward to seeing the Lox!

I make mine from the farmed fillets at Sam's Club & they are as good as any lox that I have eaten out of a Deli.

Al

 

[cmayna]

atomicsmoke,  How long are you brining in each wet and dry batch?   Sounds yummy for the tummy.  Needs pics of smoker in action.

Oh and BTW.... The sexual maturity life span of Alder pellets from Amazen products is only 2 years and 3 months, so you need to watch it dude!  Otherwise go with wild harvested fig branches

 

 

[atomicsmoke]

I am not doing two batches- just one. Actually the wetcure is not really a cure but to 'reset' porosity as per bbally's tutorial. Will see if it makes it better. The fish is in wet cure for only 30min. Dry cure 48h (which quickly becomes wet cure due to the liquid pulled from the salmon).

Do you think Todd's alder pellets are traceable? Will he be able to tell me where the tree lived? I wonder if they were previously frozen. Wild or farmed? How long were they stored before shipping? I thought i had a good handle on cold smoked salmon...so many questions.

 

[daveomak]

And the.....  there's the species and taxa types you should know....

Alnus acuminata       Andean Alder

Alnus cordata            Italian Alder

Alnus cremastogyne   Long Peduncled Alder

Alnus firma                  Kyūshū

Alnus formosana         Formosan Alder, Formosa Alder

Alnus fruticosa            Siberian Alder

Alnus glutinosa           Black Alder, European Alder, Common Alder

Alnus incana              Grey Alder

Alnus incana ssp. hirsuta              Manchurian Alder

Alnus incana ssp. oblongifolia      Arizona Alder

Alnus incana ssp. rugosa              Speckled Alder

Alnus incana ssp. tenuifolia           Thin leaf Alder, Mountain Alder

Alnus japonica              Japanese Alder

Alnus jorullensis            Mexican Alder

Alnus mandshurica ¡ ?

Alnus maritima                Seaside Alder

Alnus matsumurae           Honshu (Japan)

Alnus nepalensis               Nepalese Alder

Alnus nitida                       Himalayan Alder

Alnus oblongifolia (syn. Alnus incana ssp. oblongifolia)        Arizona Alder

Alnus orientalis                  Oriental Alder, Syrian Alder

Alnus pendula ¡ ?Alnus rhombifolia           White Alder

Alnus rubra                      Red Alder

Alnus serrulata                  Hazel Alder, Tag Alder, Smooth Alder

Alnus sieboldiana (オオバヤシャブシ in Japanese)

Alnus subcordata                  Caucasian Alder

Alnus trabeculosa ¡ ?Alnus viridis             Green Alder

Alnus viridis ssp. crispa                            Mountain Alder

Alnus viridis ssp. fruticosa                       Siberian Alder

Alnus viridis ssp. sinuata                         Sitka Alder, Slide Alder

Alnus viridis ssp. viridis                            Eurasian Alder

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[cmayna]

Ah  a dry cure.  Thanks for the clarification.  Similar to when I do smoked lox by rinsing the fish after an 8 hour stint in a dry brine.  Rinse (refresh) for 30 minutes, but then for my method it goes into a wet brine for another  8 hours, etc.    So many different recipes, so much good food.  Looking forward in seeing some finish product pics.

 

[atomicsmoke]

I will try yours next. Have some sockeye in the freezer.