What in the hell happened to this thread? It once was filled with opinions and smelled of free speech and the American dream. I spent the day staining decks and come back to it and now it smells of bad meat? Or I guess we don't quite know if the meat is bad yet until we figure out how to measure the outer 1/2" of the meat properly.God god! I'm laughing my ARSS off over here in Tacoma WA. Only in America and Smoking Meats forum I guess.... You guys crack me up! I'm not going to jump in on the meat thing but I still think he charges too much for his UDS (BDS)'s. Ha!