check this uds site out youll get a kick out of this hahah

Discussion in 'Charcoal Smokers' started by pandemonium, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    If he's making a living and not sponging then all the best to him. Some folks are just hell bent on someone's success. And yes I am a Republican. [​IMG]
  2. ddave

    ddave Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Actually he is my uncle. 

    Just kidding.[​IMG]  

    Nope, I've never met him.  I've just read a lot of good things about him and his smokers on the BBQ Brethren.
    Okay . . . [​IMG]
    That's a Mini Charcoal Ring that goes inside the charcoal basket for doing lower temp smokes.  That's not the actual charcoal basket.
    It's funny how everyone is harping on the price and throwing out figures like $600 or $1200.  The $1200 model is a stainless steel drum so you know it would cost you a bit to build one of those.  The model that is closest to what we build is $325.  In all actuality, I would say that's not too bad.
    Well, thank you.  Nothing wrong with a little healthy debate whether we agree or not. [​IMG]

  3. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    actually the one like ours is the 375$ one mine is 23 1/2 x36 haha ok im done!! and no Meateater I dont have a problem with someones success, i just though it was postworthy to most the people on here that build their own, but yes i doubt he is selling too many[​IMG]
  4. daddyzaring

    daddyzaring Smoking Fanatic

    You can't completely believe everything you read like that.  You never know how some of those smokers may have been been influence in making their comment, even unknowingly.

    There's really no way to be 100% sure unless you buy & try it yourself.

    Personally I think this forum is more valuable than any smoker, even that over priced.  Of course I am more of the type of person that would rather help someone else out, and expect nothing in return, except returning the favor if ever needed to someone else.

  5. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    im with you lol [​IMG]
  6. meateater

    meateater Smoking Guru SMF Premier Member

    The scumbag comment was what made me comment back. I hope he sells a bunch with a "Made In America" sticker on them!
  7. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    ya that was just over the line lol and it felt good!!
  8. ddave

    ddave Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Well, at the risk of continuing this mountain out of a mole hill discussion . . . but, what the heck . . .[​IMG]
    Oops . . . my bad. [​IMG]   Still $375 for a good heavy guage barrel would be a good price for someone doesn't have access to clean used drums or for whatever reason find that route more convenient.

    If you look at all of the Testimonials page

    and the Awards page

    it certainly appears as if he is selling quite a few.
    The BBQ Brethren IS a forum.  It has been around longer and has many more members than SMF.  You trust this forum explicitly but say I shouldn't believe what I read at the Brethren?? 

    The Brethren also has hands down the best UDS build thread found ANYWHERE on the internet.

    If it was "postworthy to most the people on here that build their own", well, some people on here also build their own reverse flows.  Does that make Ben Lang a crook and a hack for the prices he charges for his reverse flow smokers?

    I think a convincing case can be made that the real hacks are the weekend warriors who hang out on the forums and talk crap about people who are building smokers for a living and selling them to folks who are winning competitions with them.

    But then that's just my opinion. [​IMG]

  9. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    Ya Rocky we hear you haha and we thought you were really named Dave haha
  10. smokingohiobutcher

    smokingohiobutcher Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Oh Brother!!! Here we go again....cant we all just get along so nobody gets banned??[​IMG]

    Just my $.02.

  11. daddyzaring

    daddyzaring Smoking Fanatic

    (1.)   I never said anything specific to, this other forum you seem to favor, and you can believe anything or everything you want, and I never made any comment say this forum is better than that one, just that the knowedge I have gotten off here is more valuable, at least to me(if I wanted a BDS/UDS, the knowedge from here would save me over $1K).  I was just trying to say that (unless you know the person, personally) anyone can type anything and post it and say it is the true or whatever, that doesn't mean it is 100% true.  Even if it is true, you can't know 100% that the product they are reviewing, or giving their opinion on will be the exact same as what the buyer will receive.  It is also hard to tell who may be bias as well, for whatever reason.

    (2.)   From what I have seen from Langs  you can tell the quality,and can see where the dollars go, I can't honestly say that for those BDSs.
  12. wingman

    wingman Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    DDave... you cracked me up! "He's my uncle"  LMAO! Now that was funny... Or I'm just easily amused this evening.
  13. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    you think thats funny haha but by the way hes defending him i think he is!! but at least Dave had the sense to add handles and a valve on his uds!! ohh!!

    Ok lets stop fighting here and go post on Rockys forum lol
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2010
  14. wingman

    wingman Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    pandemonium, I meant no desrespect man. It was funny... Do I agree with his points made? No but I'm not going to let his or anyones difference in opinion upset me. I thought his statement about the guy being his uncle was funny so I stated so. I thought your opinion about the cost factor of the UDS builds you posted was correct as far as over the top. I stated so. I'm just voicing my opinion not chosing sides.  It's all good man. We all should not let differences in opinion poison our mood or this forum. After all it's just another opinion right? Have a great evening or should I say morning man.
  15. ddave

    ddave Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Now why would Rocky build a UDS with a Weber lid and paint it Daytona yellow? [​IMG]   Maybe it's part of a plan to maintain annonymity.

    Oh . . . and haha. [​IMG]

    Nah, let's talk about something really controversial . . . like foiling.  [​IMG]

    Why apologize Wingman?  If you thought it was funny I don't see how that's disrespectful of pandemonium.  You don't agree with me . . . that's fine.  I don't agree with him . . . that's fine too. [​IMG]

    Nothing wrong with debate although this one has more than run it's course.

  16. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    No its all good im not mad at all I think this is funny, yes those damn foilers let me tell you about them!!
  17. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    mods please delete this thread.

    Thank you
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2010
  18. wingman

    wingman Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    It was funny but I have a hard time reading folks through type... Sometimes my typing may come off the wrong way and I'm not one to purposely try and upset someone. I'm also one to offer an appolagy if I feel I may have come off wrong. you know defuse the situation. Pandimonium and I have exchanged some emails on video editing software etc. He seems like a great guy so I just wanted to make sure all was cool. And it is.

    And for the record... Ok.. Here I go... Cringing... I do agree with him on the pricing. I said it before and will stand my gorund, those prices are... ouch! Too high in my opinion. Before I would spend $1,200 on a UDS of his I would buy a Yoder with a lifetime burn out warranty. [​IMG]
  19. wingman

    wingman Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Further more Meateater says it all. The not sponging part anyway.. Regardless of his high prices... I couldn't agree more. this is America and if ones dream is to build expensive UDS (BDS) or cheap ones for that matter they should go for it. What ever they make in money and due to support themselves as long as it's legal... means others won't have to support them through taxes etc. I'm too a proud republican.


    And now is a good time to say no offense to those who think differently. [​IMG]  [​IMG]
  20. pandemonium

    pandemonium Master of the Pit

    lol here we go again heheh, yes the American Dream is a very large open market for anyone to get into!!!

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