Changing Fresh Venison sausage to "smoked"

Discussion in 'Sausage' started by bearcarver, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    A few weeks ago I asked if anyone had ever taken "fresh" Venison sausage, and dry cured it and smoked it. It seemed a little dumb to most, but I'm not set up to take it apart & mix cure in it, and re-stuff it. Anyway, I decided to try it & let you all know how it worked. The fresh stuff was very bland & boring, and the only deer meat left from the 3 deer that were put in that freezer last year. Below are my results so far. I will be smoking this tomorrow along with 8.7 LBs of pork loin for CB. I am posting the CB smoke on the "Bacon" category.

    Here is one of the Venison "fresh" sausage rings:

    After 4 days of dry cure (TQ)----test for salt:

    After one minute in pan. The 4 on the left were "pricked". The 5 on the right were not. It didn't seem to matter:

    Finished test---Looks & tastes like smoked sausage without the smoke:

    Ready for drying overnight, for smoking tomorrow:

    I guess I'll post the finished product on this same page in a couple days,

  2. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Man that sausage sure looks good there Bear. You said that the first stuff was bland and you decided to cure it so how did it taste after the cure. I hope really good for all the work that you had to do. Question thou do you carve anything else than bears if so I would like to see some of your stuff. I like stuff.
  3. tasunkawitko

    tasunkawitko Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    looking good so far, bear.
  4. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    LOL-----ALL BEARS, since the first thing I ever made (cobra) when I was just getting used to the chainsaws. The first thing I did was a cobra coming out of a basket (all one piece). It's not great, but it was my first attempt.
    I haven't done anything since I found I had heart problems (need a new Aortic valve), and I have a pretty big thoracic anneurysm. It was all caused at birth, but never found until I was 59 years old. I get a cat-scan every November to see if the anneurysm has grown, and an echocardiogram every June to see if my Bicuspid aortic valve has shrunk any more.
    All of that crap was from birth. The only thing I did to myself is the severe Emphysema (I used to smoke a lot of cigarettes, instead of meat). My breathing isn't great, which is very tuff to chainsaw very long at one time. I may try again sometime, but I'd have to feel a lot better than I do now.

    Smoking meat seems to be a little easier physically.

    Every now & then I'll change my "Avatar" to a different bear pic---stay tuned.[​IMG]

    Thanks for askin',
  5. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Hmmm, below is the link to my new Canadian Bacon post with Qview. For some reason it hasn't made it to the "New Post" page, like this one did.
    I'm smoking both together, but I didn't know where to put that, so I split them into two posts---"Sausages"---and---"Smoking Bacon".

    mballi: It tastes pretty good, but I expect even better after smoking tomorrow.
  6. scpatterson

    scpatterson Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Thats some good looking sausage.......
  7. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Thanks guys,
    Now that we know you really can take frozen fresh sausage, thaw it out, throw a dry cure on it & cure it for a measured number of days, and smoke it, turning it into smoked sausage, I can assure you the rest of those bland tasting fresh deer sausages will be getting the same treatment.

    It's not hard to do, or much effort----"Pricking" wasn't needed.
    It's no different than turning pork loin into CB.

    One question: Am I right in assuming it's ok to freeze this finished product, even though it was frozen before I did this to it. I figure the pork loins we turn into Canadian Bacon were frozen before they got the same treatment. Then we freeze that again.
  8. dutch

    dutch Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Yep, go ahead and freeze it. Use your vac-sealer and it will keep longer.

    Cooking or in this case smoking meats changes the cell structure by removing moisture. It's the thaw and re-freezing that creates ice crystals in the cells that breaks down the cells and give the meat a "mushy" texture.
  9. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Thanks Dutch,
    Will do today.

    Qview probably won't be until tomorrow.

  10. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    I have taken sausage out and hot smoked it without curing then just warmed it up when ready to serve but I haven't cured already made fresh sausage. Interesting idea
  11. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Here's the final product:
    As you can see, the color shows the cure worked fine, both with and without pricking the casings. I can also tell you right now that the taste is even better than it looks. Even the skin (casing) is no longer like chewing on a rubber band. I no longer even notice the casing is there.
    The rest of that Venison Fresh Sausage from our local butcher will be removed from the freezer & will be dry cured & smoked exactly like this little batch was. It was really very easy to do, as I did the same thing I do in making Canadian Bacon, except I did no additional seasoning of this smoked sausage.

    You really can turn bland fresh venison sausage into Great Smoked Sausage !

    After Blooming:


    Ready to eat (cold or hot):

  12. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I think I got this posted on the original thread too late, after it got buried, so here is the final product again:

    Thanks again guys (and gals),
  13. scpatterson

    scpatterson Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Man..It looks like you really brought it around...looks great

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