Better than Bacon?

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Nicely done looks and sounds delicious. Thai anything is a fav with me, the other 5 I cook for, not so much. I think I will make a batch of these and Chinese Char Siu Kabobs, that they like, and see if they can be swayed. 

Better than Bacon??? Maybe if you used Belly to make these. I'm thinking...Marinate the Belly chunks, SV til tender then refrigerate overnight. Skewer up and grill until hot with a Crispy surface. DAMN! Now I have to find some local Pork Belly!...JJ
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Looks very interesting!

What temp and how long did you grill them?

Did you take them to a certain IT?

Mike
Mike- I have been grilling these some times on my Mini WSM - basically a Smokey Joe, so I have no temperature to give you, but I can give you some guesses and aids to go by.

I start the coals in a chimney starter  then dump them in basket in the bottom of the grill and even them out. When they are completely ashed over, I begin grilling directly over the coals. Its kind of thing where I go by feel. They should take 30 minutes to no longer than 45 minutes turning and moving every 10-15 minutes or so. I would guess in the 325-350' range? If you get a good sear/char/carmelization, you can move them to indirect heat and continue cooking (and stop basting) until done or you cant wait any longer.

The minimum internal temp for pork was lowered in 2011 by the Department of Agreculture from 160' to 145'. You don't have to slow roast these to a higher temperature like you would PP. I like leaving them crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside and can even be a little pink inside yet still over 145' IT. Shoulder is pretty forgiving in that sense, so it depends on how you like your pork. I do probe with a instant read Thermoworks MK4 thermometer to make sure they are done on the ends of the kebabs, but that is difficult because they are not very big to begin with and the skewer can give you false readings. Same reason it is hard to read ribs.
Those sound and look fantastic!
They're going on my short list of recipes to try.

Congrats on making the carousel.

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Nicely done looks and sounds delicious. Thai anything is a fav with me, the other 5 I cook for, not so much. I think I will make a batch of these and Chinese Char Siu Kabobs, that they like, and see if they can be swayed. 

Better than Bacon??? Maybe if you used Belly to make these. I'm thinking...Marinate the Belly chunks, SV til tender then refrigerate overnight. Skewer up and grill until hot with a Crispy surface. DAMN! Now I have to find some local Pork Belly!...JJ
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YESSSSS! Now that's my line of thinkin'! Belly would be outstanding! Any fatty cut would be great! I thought the shoulder (untrimmed) was plenty fatty for me, but the way you describe it sounds like it could take it to another level! You get that enhanced caramelized delightful crispy fatty surface with the aid of the coconut milk baste.

You could leave the belly in 4 to 6" slabs or strips but score it deep every 1" or so or cubes for more surface area to caramelize and crisp.
 
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Looks very interesting!

What temp and how long did you grill them?

Did you take them to a certain IT?

Mike
Mike- I have been grilling these some times on my Mini WSM - basically a Smokey Joe, so I have no temperature to give you, but I can give you some guesses and aids to go by.
I start the coals in a chimney starter  then dump them in basket in the bottom of the grill and even them out. When they are completely ashed over, I begin grilling directly over the coals. Its kind of thing where I go by feel. They should take 30 minutes to no longer than 45 minutes turning and moving every 10-15 minutes or so. I would guess in the 325-350' range? If you get a good sear/char/carmelization, you can move them to indirect heat and continue cooking (and stop basting) until done or you cant wait any longer.
The minimum internal temp for pork was lowered in 2011 by the Department of Agreculture from 160' to 145'. You don't have to slow roast these to a higher temperature like you would PP. I like leaving them crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside and can even be a little pink inside yet still over 145' IT. Shoulder is pretty forgiving in that sense, so it depends on how you like your pork. I do probe with a instant read Thermoworks MK4 thermometer to make sure they are done on the ends of the kebabs, but that is difficult because they are not very big to begin with and the skewer can give you false readings. Same reason it is hard to read ribs.
Those sound and look fantastic!

They're going on my short list of recipes to try.


Congrats on making the carousel.

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Nicely done looks and sounds delicious. Thai anything is a fav with me, the other 5 I cook for, not so much. I think I will make a batch of these and Chinese Char Siu Kabobs, that they like, and see if they can be swayed. 

Better than Bacon??? Maybe if you used Belly to make these. I'm thinking...Marinate the Belly chunks, SV til tender then refrigerate overnight. Skewer up and grill until hot with a Crispy surface. DAMN! Now I have to find some local Pork Belly!...JJ:biggrin:  


YESSSSS! Now that's my line of thinkin'! Belly would be outstanding! Any fatty cut would be great! I thought the shoulder (untrimmed) was plenty fatty for me, but the way you describe it sounds like it could take it to another level! You get that enhanced caramelized delightful crispy fatty surface with the aid of the coconut milk baste.
You could leave the belly in 4 to 6" slabs or strips but score it deep every 1" or so or cubes for more surface area to caramelize and crisp.

Victim, are you thinking of a fresh sausage, as in brats, or smoked?

Dammit JJ!! I was planning to make a trip to Costco for a belly for bacon and now I'm thinking about getting two. :hit:
 
Not smoked Smokey. I will be making fresh brats with this next time 'round. When I used wood chunks while grilling, I felt the smoke flavor took over. Smoke being the desirable trait for most meats around here, I would back off on this one and let the other flavors come through. I don't think you will miss it. there will be plenty of caramelization going on anyway. The brats, surely will follow suit when they cook. I'm thinking they will be good on a bun loaded with just caramelized onions, and maybe... just maybe some mango salsa.
 
Not smoked Smokey. I will be making fresh brats with this next time 'round. When I used wood chunks while grilling, I felt the smoke flavor took over. Smoke being the desirable trait for most meats around here, I would back off on this one and let the other flavors come through. I don't think you will miss it. there will be plenty of caramelization going on anyway. The brats, surely will follow suit when they cook. I'm thinking they will be good on a bun loaded with just caramelized onions, and maybe... just maybe some mango salsa.

Pretty much what I was thinking. Gotta try the kebobs first...
 
First: Hat's off to browneyesvictim for his ingenuity!!

However...Bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon, it's BACON.

Made this last Sunday. Started as 16 lbs. belly, squared off ends and ribs, Vermont maple syrup coated, smoked low (175-200) until 150 IT using apple and a bit of hickory wood in my Lang. Thinking about coating one side heavily with coarse black pepper next time...


 
Wow sounds awesome
"Wow" was exactly the same word I verbalized with my first bite.
 
Looks great!  Looks kinda like what you can get at vietnamese restaurants.  Definitely can't be afraid of the fish sauce, just use it sparingly :)
Fish sauce.. Umami secret weapon. shhhhhh....
 
Can we sticky this please?! Hahaha
Its on the carousel now, so it'll be around for a while. Thank you for the point!
 
Really good! But nothing is better than bacon! I did the recipe exactly.




They went for about 40 min @350ish. I moved  them around a lot. After sampling a couple off the skewers I wanted them a little less chewy so I panned them and covered them and put back on the grill for another 15-20 min then wrapped in towel and rested for 30 min. That help to make them perfect texture! 

It was a nice change. Tasted great and everyone said the same. Nice change from the same ol bbq I do! I will make these again for sure! 

Thanks for the recipe BEV

Used my webber kettle and Kingsford charcoal for the cook.

9lb pork shoulder marinated over night using the recipe exactly.

Keeper
 
I'm wondering how a teaspoon or more of Tiger Sauce might effect the flavor? I might have to do two batches, darn it!  
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Really good! But nothing is better than bacon! I did the recipe exactly.




They went for about 40 min @350ish. I moved them around a lot. After sampling a couple off the skewers I wanted them a little less chewy so I panned them and covered them and put back on the grill for another 15-20 min then wrapped in towel and rested for 30 min. That help to make them perfect texture! 

It was a nice change. Tasted great and everyone said the same. Nice change from the same ol bbq I do! I will make these again for sure! 

Thanks for the recipe BEV

Used my webber kettle and Kingsford charcoal for the cook.

9lb pork shoulder marinated over night using the recipe exactly.

Keeper
What do you mean you panned it? Like skillet?  I was curious of the same thiing
 
I took them off the skewers and put them in a foil pan and covered with aluminum foil and put back on is what I mean when I said panned them. Made it very tender
 
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