beer can chicken question?

Discussion in 'Poultry' started by realtorterry, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. realtorterry

    realtorterry Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I new at smoking, but I'm thinking of trying to smoke some beer can chicken. I did Jeff's e-course & learned that brining chicken is a good thing, but not to brine chicken that is kosher or has water added? That seems to be all I fined & im wondering if I need to brine at all? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Guys!!
  2. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    Some people say its a waste of time others will brine. Personally I like brining I wash the bird well then drop it in the brine bucket overnight. I'm moving your post to the Poultry section
  3. bigbaldbbq

    bigbaldbbq Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    It really is a matter of choice. I have done both and like both. If you have the time give it a try, and if not, don't worry about it. Or you can try one of each and see which one you like the best.
  4. realtorterry

    realtorterry Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I guess my question is can you brine a chicken that has the 20% water solution added? Jeff's e-course says you shouldn't, but people here on the website seem to do it anyway?
  5. polishmeat

    polishmeat Meat Mopper

    Yes to the brine! I've only done it with Turkey, but same goes for chicken for sure! It will be a tasty treat!
  6. ronp

    ronp Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I wouldn't do it. Its already brined.
  7. rivet

    rivet Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Hey Real...goood question. I was confused and had never brined at on epoint so I did a comparison test on a brined vs unbrined bird and had blind sampling done. Here's the thread if you want to know the real deal on brining-

    Good smokes to you!
  8. realtorterry

    realtorterry Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    rivet, thanks for the reply. I clicked on your link, but the same questions still arises? I noticed both of your chickens had NO water added. My questions is should I brine the chickens that DO have that 15-25 % water added or is it just wasting time because it won't absorb anymore water?
  9. rivet

    rivet Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    You are correct, at that point the meat is saturated and will not absorb any more. Most birds have somewhere around 6% added water and that's pretty close to saturated as well. At that point, a chicken will only pick up a slightly salty or spice flavor, but you can get the same results by rubbing. Brining allows the meat proteins to absorb the brine throughout the muscle tissue. If the meat is already saturated, it won't absorb any more except on the surface where the initial drainage occurs.

    Birds that have water added or flavor added have it done by injection at the plant. They inject the liquid at 34 F into the muscle tissue. The solution is salted to the right balance that will cause the proteins to bind with the solution.

    This is part of my position that brining does nothing that I cannot achieve with a rub.

    As you read in the test results, the resulting meat from brining seemed "mushy" to me and I preferred the unbrined one that had a chewier moouthfeel.
  10. realtorterry

    realtorterry Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Thanks rivet, thats what I needed to know & suspected from the begining
  11. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Personally I have brined and not brined and there to me very little differance. So the best thing to do is smoke it one way or the other and test for yourself. But then you'd have to but another chicken but can you really get enough good smoked chicken.
  12. flash

    flash Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Never found a chicken I needed to brine yet.
  13. bigsteve

    bigsteve Master of the Pit

    I brine Chicken pieces. I don't brine whole birds. They come out so well with a beer can up their butt, or on the rotissorie, I see no need. But that's just me.......

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