Here is a rub I use for beef. I use it on Brisket and on london broils. 3 tablespoon coarsely ground black pepper (I will substitute 1 TBS with the 5 fiery pepper for a lil more spice) 2 tablespoons table salt 1 tablespoon granulated white sugar 1 tablespoon onion powder 2 teaspoons mustard powder 2 teaspoons garlic powder 2 teaspoons chili or ancho powder 1 teaspoon chipotle or cayenne powder I'm not much on injecting. When I do a brisket I will rub the night before atleast. Wrap with aluminum foil with a lil beef broth, apple juice and cider vinegar.